I've got an idea which is sort of similar to these ones, but with one big difference. I'm not proposing a single player/offline mode, but rather a standalone app in which you can play with others on your local wifi (LAN, basically). As many people do not live near the servers, having a separate version of the game which can be played using your own wifi would mean you could host mini tournaments with your friends, not worrying about lag and all. While this might not be relevant to some, I see it as a step forward competitively, and casually. An issue this might create - Not being able to log in to your accounts (or if you could, then there might be problems associated with using accounts offline) - Maybe upon startup you need to contact the TO servers once to log in to your account each time. - If not logging in (as above) then there could be the option of using a "guest" account, which wouldn't have paints available, etc. - (Probably the best option) Maybe the app could have no game progression, with access to simple versions of each turret and hull only (M1 or M2 of each, for example; no M3s). The point of having a separate version of this game is so you can play locally with friends, without lag. This would be no threat to the online TO as it would lack features and the ability to play with anyone worldwide. However it would be extremely useful if you were organising a tournament of sorts. I wasn't sure if I should have made a separate topic for this idea or not. It's different from the other ones on this thread... but still sort of similar. Can someone let me know if I should repost this as a separate topic? Thanks.

If you cannot choose your battle, then how will you decide what equipment to use? I mean, pretend I want to be a Shaft in a long range battle. Also, I'll add, I do not have any short range weapons. So, when I arrive in Arena, what do I do? Keep quitting and clicking "battle" until I find a suitable battle? I'm not trying to have a go at anyone, and am only pointing this out. Sorry if I'm doing so in an overly dramatic and exaggerated manner. Just to confirm, is the option to manually join battles being completely removed?

If you want something that simply can work well, try Twins, or maybe Smoky/Rico. Apart from that, Freeze would be an interesting choice, since it has been buffed in ways (and also nerfed; penetration). Fire might still be better than Freeze, however. Not completely sure, as I cannot really play with many M3s... only 1. Edit; I actually go for a hull if I were you, but still your choice. You've only got one M3.

Just a thought (not saying you should spend more crystals), did you originally get a map mission, such as "300 exp. on Skylark"? If you did, that would be the one that needs changing, I think (only one map mission, etc.).

I understand what everyone is unhappy about, but I can also see why this is the case. At really low ranks, the battle fund grows slowly; low amounts of crystals per kill. In effect, you'd earn less for buying equipment. To make it work, the equipment has a lower price; Fire M1 only costs 7k~. Once you reach higher ranks, there are more crystals per kill, and therefore you earn more per battle. To offset this, the prices of equipment goes up; Firebird at M3 costs 230k~. So therefore if you go giving a Master Sergeant 20k, you'd be giving them an M1 turret in one day. On the other hand, if you set a "special" 3k reward for Generalissimos who need approximately 900k+ to fully MU a turret, they'd be very ungrateful. Make sense?

Argh, I didn't need this. Although, I really wouldn't mind trying it. http://imgur.com/a/6qani That's only 19k for an M2 (yeah, maybe the worst, but who cares). I'd be getting it so I could try it, and have fun with it, not to use it in battles seriously (I have Fire M2, Thunder M3 and Rail M2 for that now). Any objections? (As for comments about saving for M3s later, I am only thinking about Prometheus, in the future, as everything else is just way too far away (Marshal now...); I probably won't even get to Prom, let alone the others. So, considering that I may not even reach the "fun M3 stage", is it reasonable to go for this (it's really cheap)?).

Oh, didn't know that... Am still leaning towards Rail as it's not like I'll be stuck with it once I've got it.

I have 150k, and Rail M2 at 31% off costs 66k. So, I'd have 84k left, plus XP if I bought Rail (I've got Hornet M2 already). I would like XP as an extra game option, so am therefore considering Rail now. My original plan was to go for Prometheus, and I'll most likely stick to that. Prometheus unlocks at Lieutenant General now (I assume) and therefore I have 210k exp remaining until then. I am not sure if my profile is a guide as to how much I will earn in that time, but if it is, I will gain 710k. I don't think this is accurate; if I wanted it to be more accurate I'd need to play more, as right now my missions are giving me a higher crystal/exp. ratio. So, I should probably expect 300-500k by then, plus 84k. I don't truly need Prometheus straight away, so even if I don't have enough crystals (I'd need 495k) I would survive with Thunder M3, etc. Back to my question; is there anything wrong with buying Rail M2? Please let me know if there are any obvious drawbacks with M2 vs M3 XP/BP, for example. Thanks. Edit: There's also 59k in rank-up rewards.

Try holding down "fn" and then F5 at the same time. That works for self-destruct, so probably would here too.

Really? Thanks. I mean, erm, my name is actually rotten, so you are wrong. There! :lol:

Dictator Rail? Wow. I still think fire.

My guess is Fire/Wasp, Fire/Hornet. They probably will not go for something not very well known, but if they do, that's nice too.

Right now, just before server restart, it is great, apart from some lag / bad fps and stuff. 900 people in one server, 650 in another. Can go into the garage, and have tested the Rico Alteration. Quite simply, it makes the turret useable at much longer ranges, but not as effective close up. The projectile speed increase is so much fun. :)

I've waited longer than that; stuck with Rico and Wasp. Did you get the blank screen problem, or only loading bar?

Yep, here's the place where everyone gets to flood and gain free likes.

Be thankful they changed the prices of equipment; Hornet's especially. My first thought was that it all sounds better than last week. Happy about the kits. As for the bad side of things, everyone else has said enough.

Thanks, I thought Freeze was always considered one of the weaker turrets. This tells me otherwise (at M4, at least).

Is better, or will be (after the rebalance)?

The rebalance will be mid October. So, in a week or two. After, you will not be able to buy M3s unless you are Marshal rank. Not sure about kits; they might be available at your rank, or only later. We will see. Hopefully the Vlog gives us more to think about.

Hulls have some differences. I'm sure, simply because Dictator is a heavy in TX and Titan a medium in TO. As for turrets, remember that TX doesn't have modifications (M1, M3, etc.). That makes it not-so-easy to tell.

Spamming, are you? :lol: 6.78/10

Have you noticed that soon there will be a rebalance, and all M3s will only be available at the rank of marshal? If you didn't know, take a look at the newest Vlog (108), the forum page for that, and this; http://en.tankiwiki.com/Global_update_of_game_balance_for_Tanki_Online That'll tell you which turrets/hulls are getting what changes made. Thunder will stay similar, more a buff than nerf. Hornet will be nerfed, mainly, and the cost will go up a lot, and as I said, you'll need to be Marshal. As for kits, we haven't been told yet what will happen to them. Chances are that they will stay, but will only be available at later ranks closer to Marshal. If you want to get an M3 such as Thunder, go for it alone now, or in a kit. Keep in mind that around mid October these changes will be made... As for your actual question, I think you'll be fine with what you have now, so don't go for Smoky or Rail M2. Hornet/Wasp both have similar health, and get smashed in larger matches against others. Therefore, if you have spare crystals, go for M2 Viking. I have both Hornet and Viking at M2, and since I bought Viking it replaced Hornet entirely. Going back to turrets, buy Thunder if you want something else to shoot with. Isida will be losing heaps of its self heal and some healing; huge nerf. Good luck with your choices.

Thanks. Still easily winning at , but of course more kit users / M1s will appear. Never tried Dictator apart from M0, so that's why I wanted to try it. Nor have I truly tried Hunter past M0, either, unless you count M2 on test server and M3 on test server. So, will still aim for Rail M1, although it's a pity it will be changed after rebalance (not necessarily a bad change, though), plus Hunter or Dictator. Will see how I go. 20k crystals right now, and 68k experience until WO3. Hero (if I still am aiming for it, which I might as well) costs 54k. Therefore, I should be able to make enough for that, especially since I actually have until the end of WO3 (as the kit disappears at WO4). I just hope I can keep winning battles for a while longer.

This is really good; it compares each hull's new differences (I mean, similarities) to each other in a really effective way, and is much easier to understand first-off than this; http://en.tankiwiki.com/Global_update_of_game_balance_for_Tanki_Online . Hornet is dead, especially because of its new price-tag. As for the others, you managed to put them in a decent light where neither was obviously better than the other. Well done with managing that with the Mammoth issue... But, as said, they are all way too similar to each other (in their classes).

Will Dictator (at M1) be worth it after the upcoming update? Other option is Hunter, I guess, as I don't want Viking. Oh, and one other question; how long will Twins M0 last? :lol: Also, Rail M0. And on top of that, Viking M0. :)