Here's another problem with Isida: Twins, Rico, Thunder, Rail, Vulcan, Hammer, and Shaft all have the ability to target up and down ramps. If I am at the top or bottom of a ramp they can hit me but I cannot hit them. This is precisely why changing the cone of Isida is unfair. The cone should exactly match the angle of each and every ramp.

I think it's a disgrace that only 2 days of open testing were allowed on something like this. Also by giving people virtually unlimited supplies it hardly allows for real world testing.

I never play against gismos so your personal attack is completely out of line.

It's really hard to avoid that since they tightened up the ranks available for battles. It's fairly common in the battles I join to see three stars with Viking M3 coupled with Hammer M3 since both unlock at three stars.

Agree. A rail doesn't have to aim at you to hit you but now with Isida we have to be perfectly aligned just to use it? I am about to rank and was going to get Isida M3 but there's no way I'm doing it now. I would have been even more angry about this update had I just gotten it last week. At least now I know not to spend a dime on buying crystals.

Firebird is so useless now.

See? It's ridiculous that the range of three turrets DOES NOT INCREASE regardless of upgrade. Why should M0 and M3+ Twins, Firebird, and Freeze all have the same range while Isida's increases?

The problem with Hammer that I dislike the most is the ability to completely flip a tank from front to back. That's just way OP. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times this has happened to me.

The way to fix this is put things back as they were and nerf the two things that were the issue: Hammer and Vulcan.

Isida's range was extended while Twins, Firebird, and Freeze were cut down substantially. In effect Isida can attack all three of those without being touched by any of them. When your range is 40 and suddenly it is 15 that IS a significant crippling of a turret.

Are there other games out there where the rules constantly change on a weekly basis? It gets rather annoying to adjust to something only to have it changed a week later. So because they added two new turrets they found they need to change everything? That's just insane. The game really isn't "free" because I seriously doubt anyone ranks all the way to gismo without buying something at some point. One interesting aspect of how changes affect game play: it is now impossible for Twins, Freeze, or Firebird to affect an Isida since Isida's maximum range is now further than all three of those turrets. Even Isida at M0 can stay out of range of Twins M3+. M3+ Twins used to have a range of 40 - now it's 15.

The whole thing was a scam to get rid of free crystals. They had to remove them because the Russian Ruble was crashing against other major currencies - so they added the big boxes for a short time in order to get people upset about how that was interfering with the battles - so then they removed all of them. Then they said the drops were being added to the battle funds - point is - it is impossible to know if that is really true. I remember the 10 cry boxes well - it was the big reason why I started playing last year. I can't imagine starting over now and moving up without them.

Sometime though that Isida attacking takes away enough health to make a difference in killing a flag carrier. This is why I do both. A good Isida player can handle both situations - but if there are no other Isidas on the team then I usually hang around the flag base keeping defenders healed. Also keep in mind another primary objective is to know where your own flag carrier is at on the map so it is necessary sometimes to come up behind an attacker to protect your own carrier out in the field. If we took away the damage capabilities it would hinder that ability.

When I use Isida I am doing about 50% attacking and 50% healing. It depends on the situation. Now it is basically useless for attacking. I have seen Isidas being wiped out like bugs on a windshield over the past day or so.

Also people don't use Freeze to cool down people who have gotten flamed.

The range was decreased so literally you have to be right next to a Freeze for it to stop you.

Yeah, it's fairly useless now unless you are directly level with another player. This gives it a major disadvantage from healing other team mates now.

Yes, I have been waiting for that star for about a month now (I took a two month break from Tanki due to other game ruining changes a few months ago) - I was looking forward to the upgrade but now I doubt I will consider it. Put so much effort into playing just to unlock something and now....?

I've been using Isida since I started and now it becomes really useless due to the cone being modified.

What is equally more frustrating is settling on one or two favorite turrets - learning the pros and cons - learning how to use them effectively - then suddenly Tanki decides to ruin them. I was planning on buying M3 Isida once I rank but there's no way I'll be doing that now. Why would I want to buy anything now when there's the risk of it being screwed up by another update?

I doubt it can be better than 20ms.

No, it isn't lag. It's completely unrealistic when you see someone charging their rail and you are nowhere near the line of sight and still get popped.

They also did that to Freeze. One of the great uses of Freeze was chasing down a flag carrier to slow them down. Now if they are 5 meters out of range it is useless against them. The fact that critical parameters never change despite expensive upgrades is upsetting. Why should a M0 and M3+ Firebird have the same characteristic? There is a link on the first page of this thread that leads you to a Google Doc that shows all of the before/after changes.

Wrong. Firebird has lost half of the effective range. The pathetic thing is that the range is the same regardless of M0, M1, M2, or M3. So you pay more for something with the same parameter? That's insane.

I agree. When we buy hulls or turrets it it because something about them is appealing. Imagine buying a sports car only to find out later some over the air update from the manufacturer gives you more horsepower but then cuts your top speed by half. If you purchase "X" then the parameters of "X" should never change for the time you have it.