Actually, this is not quite accurate. They deal the same DPS, but the freezing effect in the test you conducted is useless. It does not hurt the other tank, but the heating effect the Fire does deals extra damage to the other tank, so theoretically, Fire should win every time.

Remember that the Isida that is healing the thing you naively fire at is only doing that, so you are taking each other out of the battle. I know that you get no points and that it gets points at the expense of its team. You should start with the Isida anyway. When there are multiple Isidas, you could be taking both of them out of the battle although you are not getting any reward. One for the team. :P

If you did not run out of ammo with med hulls, you'll get the same results with light hulls.

Hey OKDad70. I completely agree here. You are a drugger as far as I am concerned. Look at my profile. I have never used drugs. I know that it is part of the game blah blah, but that has been my choice. Because of that, our opinions differ quite a bit. Your story about the Isidas I can easily understand, but now Isidas are completely useless without drugs. I know because I am no longer afraid of them. I kill them left and right. When you have three Isidas take your flag, previously they could have done it with two Isidas. Isidas suffered. I know because I used them a few times. If you don't believe me, use one. I know that the devs keep rebalancing to keep players buying or upgrading other than their main turrets and force other shopping behavior. I just voice my opinion about how I feel things are going. Just like you, I think that some turrets and hulls etc. are better out of the game, but the difference is that I care about the irritating people who have them. You don't seem to. :P Thanks.

Let me bring you up to date and let you know that there is practically no after-burn anymore -- just like there is practically no self-healing. That is one thing, the other is that you do not compare things like that. You have to compare things at the same level, e.g. stock M4 Twins versus stock M4 Fire or Freeze. Do that comparison, and come back.

Your first statement is pretty harsh. There are people who have invested a lot of time and crystals on their Isidas, (and that includes me although I usually use Fire unless a Vulkan annoys me too much I then use Graffiti with Isida). Now, I can't do much to a Vulkan, and I tried it. I hate Twins. Head to head they beat Fire or Freeze although they are long mid-range (compared to Hammer and even Rico). That is ridiculous, but I don't wish they'd remove Twins or make it useless, and I still have an M0 Twins, and I'd never buy an M3 Twins. Your complaint (and even mine when I used a non-Isida) was when it was on drugs--you just die. Now tell me, what is your chance against a Vulkan on drugs when you don't have any? When you have drugs, you can hurt the old Isida on drugs. When you don't have drugs or protection, you are pretty much toast against any turret on drugs. Imagine a Railgun takes you out in one shot from the opposite end of the map. You can't even see it. How much fun is that? After the rebalance, I am killing Isidas left and right. Previously, I'd need to shoot them from afar using Rico. Currently, Isidas are only good for defense on Noise blue team because you can stay away and just heal people. It is useless in offense, while you can use other turrets pretty much in any role.

Isida is a short-range turret. Now, it can't hold its own against almost any long-range turret. If you want to know what is OP, it is TWINS. At 880 DPS (data for M4), it beats the your OP Freeze 840 DPS. You did not notice that? A mid-long-range turret beats your OP short-range turret. That is the laughable thing.

I commend the devs on the red damage count that shows the player that he/she/it got the kill. This is probably the best update in the entire thing. You can see now that practically nobody uses Isida anymore. That shows that the changes it got were unfortunate. Semyon said that Hornet should still drift. I do not know if it does, but I noticed that Viking now drifts. I do not think that was intended. It is pretty silly anyway. Anyway, I made this post to accolade the devs on the red kill damage count. Thank you.

Excellent article. They should give you another dream tank. Tell them to take this one and ...

I do not remember the last time the devs set out to fix something and the outcome was actually equal or better than before. That said, let me ask about the twins being more powerful than any short-range turret? How can short-range turrets face the twins? It reaches farther than you do, it has higher DPS, it never needs to reload, and it can do everything else that you can do. The logic of saying that nerfing the hulls helps Isida is flawed, because nerfing the hulls has the same effect on all the turrets, so you need to compare turrets one to another without bringing the hulls in. The fact that the Isida can fire longer only means that you need a longer time to kill someone--longer than they need to kill you, not to mention their being able to get help from other tanks while you take all day to kill them. No matter how you say it, Isida now is useless. You brought a great point though, which can be interpreted that the whole purpose of this update is to forcefully market alterations. You will be toast without them.

Sorry, none of the submissions impressed me.

We used to use F5 (refresh) in the browser when things go crazy or when it takes forever to download the game or a battle. What do we do in the client? Thanks.

I am impressed. I honestly did not expect this level of honesty. Way to go!

There is no more Emerald (if you don't have it already). The highest protection you can buy is 35% (M3).

I already posted the suggestion about making the protection modules singles and adjusting the prices and micro-upgrade prices accordingly so one can have any combination of up to 3 protections, mixing their own protection modules and customizing favorites for quick access. That is an update worth working for.

After I changed a bad mission, I got a mission with a reward of 3 hours of Premium. Isn't that just great?

Also, fixing bugs is not fun. You only please some customers you don't really care about.

That is not it. It has to be something much worse. The 4-protection paints have one or two joke protections like 10% or something.

Now, this is a reasonably nice update, but it is not worth the effort. Given this incredible effort and emphasis placed on it, there has to be a lot more than meets the eye to it, and, from my experience, that has to be bad. We'll soon find out what it is.

Hi. Is not the next stage separating the protection modules into single turret protections? That is much better and more versatile for everyone, especially if one can have their own custom trios from those singles. Obviously, the prices have to be increased significantly, so maybe 50% from any turret would cost 1,000,000 crystals, but not make it not affordable by never selling 50% protection, but say selling 10% protection at 1000 crystal, but adjusting microupgrade cost so it would cost 1,000,000 crystals or whatever if you microupgrade a protection all the way to 50% protection.

This is amazing, guys! Thank you so much!

The top three are incredible! Congratulations!

I only play DM when I have to (for a mission). I naturally have never been first in a DM battle. This comes as a shock to me, so I wanted to share this shock with you.

Bring back Semyon even if voice-over. This voice-over is not a match for the V-LOG. It almost makes you fall asleep.

Did anybody consider that we will lose all our friends lists?