Wait, what, that's a . . . huh, I'm glad I'm not into this sort of thing

I'm a Southern conservative honey, you like someone with the same parts and, well, you is wrong (say all that with a big hick account, long drawl, all that)

We're doing this real time, I'm impressed.

I saw what you did there.

Right, all these sub threads, I get lost. Well, upvoted never the less, there you go, women get their freak on too please.

Oh, and in the sense of solidarity with our comrade female players, I'm going to like your post like I did of the hot girl picture, I say everyone gets their sexy on in Tanki.

Okay, reposting as the site ate my original. I looked at the Premuim Account material the other night, saw the benefits, the the added items, still on the fence about the paint, but whatever, what matters here in something VERY different. This is the solution all of us non-drugging complainers have been asking for, a way for Tanki to earn some money from regulars that don;t want to spend on drugs. Now, for a VERY reasonable rpice, you can play drug free with other players and Tanki developers still put food on the table back home. Win/win, and like I said, at 10 bucks a months, you'll be hard pressed to find a better deal ANYWHERE. I generally complain and disdain many decisions made by Tanki towards it's fan base, but in this one instance, in this one thing, they have perfectly matched a need with a solution. Sure extra crystals and extrra XP, but hey , in the end, those don't make you better, they just get you to ranks where you'll just be killed faster. Like I said, ZERO complaints this was the right solution. So again, I will likely BUY INTO this Premium Account system and start playing PRO Battles and never look back, I FogOfWar_XXX am saying something GOOD this time about what was done. IT was done right, the first time. By the same token, devs, don't go pulling bait and switch and changing the acount properties and what you get, and don't start jacking up the prices to ridiculous levels either. You are now getting fixed rate income on real purchases, can't beat the with a stick, so don't get greedy, and players, don't get greedy or stupid, and comlpain you want more or different, for once this was done right from the beginning.

why did this place eat my previous post to the one I just made.

I secondthat. There is little point in these except the personal satisfaction. These never get layed. I madea huge one, spent months. Vikingsrall has seen it. It's really a shame we can't make the effort then maybe competitively attempt to get our maps added.

Control and sway the hearts and minds of women. You figure out what would be so super about that.

HTwon, thanks for the population demos, didn't have thos on hand, or the GDP stats, wanted to add those but yeah, kudos for having that. I did NOT know aboutthe water grid. That's one to pocket away for the memory banks.

The largest state in the coterminous union and the second largest state of them all. Texas in located centrally in the US, on the south, sharing a border with Mexico. Texas is big, Texans have big egos, Texans like big, do things big, and they pretty much holds, "You you ain't from Texas, you wrong." Point is, Texas is a state in the union that has been it's own nation, and while there is some debate about the legality of the constitution of the state, in theory, it is the only state in the union that can legally sucede from the United States by vote of the State Congress. Most people here are Texans first, then Americans, though that said, Amercians never the less, that till America stops believing in what Texans believe so to speak. For instance, it's the only state in the union where you are still allowed to protect your private property with deadly force. If someone comes onto my property, I can shoot them dead, no questions asked. Repo men don't like working in Texas ;). Texas is one of the largest economies in the wrold, and it is larger than France in terms of geographic area. Again, BIG. We have our own oil, agriculture, and coast line. It is one of the few states that COULD IN THEORY survive outside the union with little or no trouble. We pride ourselves on that. In fact, 1 in 12 Americans ARE TEXANS, that's how populace Texas is. And while I don't know if it has overtaken Mexico City yet, which has held first place for decades, the Dallas/Ft Worth Metroplex, which in technical terms means incorporated municipalities within a county (Dallas and Fort Worth represent two counties, Dallas and Tarrant counties respectively) is the second largest land locked metropolitan area in the world, and I'm sure it must have over taken Mexico city now in terms of landmass, though population is still questionable, I don't know the answer to that. There is of course a lot more to Texas than that, but if you're ever state side son of how ever you spell all that out, drop by and visit.

Okay, the exercise was purely mental I suppose, the differences are nearly imperceptible in terms of practical use, and on M3, there is really no difference like you demonstrated. (I normally never fan boy, but I do want an M3 shaft ASAP. I'm waiting to rank up, the next rank up and I own an M2, looking foward to that.)

Yeah, that's a bizarre thing to me, here, I'll explain. (example in M0) So full charge in Sniper, you fire, the bar begins charging. Now, you see a target of opportunity in the distance, you fire an arcade shot. You WERE charing at 121.18. So at the charge rate of 121.18, to arrive at 469.41 it would take 3.873659019640205 seconds, and we'll round to 3.874, slightly faster than recovering from a arcade shot, but the real question there after, what is the wait time now for the next shot? Are you still charging from the sniper stats since you never fully recharged, or are you now into the recharge value "time" of 3.882? And if so, does that mean if you arcade shot after a sniper shot at the first possible opportunity, does your reload time then take effect and if you completely upgraded your reload rate you would now be firing at 3.74 shots per second now? Which takes precedent, the full recharge of the Sniper shot, or the recharge rate of the last shot taken? Not saying it would matter per say, the charge rate I assume would remain constant, the "reload" rate is time between shots it seems, not energy accrual for shots if I'm reading that right? But then, you look at other tanks and the energy bar refills completely, so there there is a direct corollary. ARRRGGGGG, my head hurts.

Okay, that is what I had been leaning towards, but I was not certain. 469.41 is the minimum consumption right after entering scope then to be certain? IE, if you scope and fire immeadiately, you will consume 469.41 for a M0 shot right?

This question goes to the DEVs since this a real techinical question. The chart for Shaft is not very clear as to which stat provides charging data for sniping. http://en.tankiwiki.com/Shaft Recharege per arcade shot is clear, and under the upgradable parems, but sniping mode is a bit of a mystery to me. When I play, I don't see much of a discernable recharge rate difference between firing from arcade mode and rechargeing than from firing from sniper and then recharging. Thus it would seem to me that the recharge rate after firiing a full charge sniper shot would reload at the same rate as if I had just shot a arcade shot? Some one help me out. 1000 energy, assuming full charge. So what, it's a 1000/121.18 to full charge and rescope again? Help me understand this chart.

Alright then, gonna hold ya to it. Hope the dust settles around here and things get sorted out. For the record, I like the idea of the premium acount, so long as it's affordable and it nerfed the paint, but that's just me.

Okay, so in the future as long as the guideline for posting are in fact followed, we can be CERTAIN that our content shall not be removed?

Wow, this degraded quick. I think a diagram of who is who in terms of title and what they do in Tanki would be VERY helpful, along with some hard fast rules as to who says what in terms of truth. If Admins can only give speculation on opinions, then they are as clueless as the people doing the asking, hence these questions need to posed to people higher up the chain. Can someone work out a "org chart" here of what roles and what "official" role people play here in Tanki? This will go a long way towards avoiding confusion and letting people know who is saying what and if it's even worht listening to in terms of real answers, because frankly, I have skimmed this topic all day, and I can't tell who is who and why or what or squat all really of who can speak to a topic with some sort of ifficial and final say.

Fair enough. Point is, they're willing to address directly the comments and issues people are asking. That said, I have been keeping up with "other side", and it's clear there are MANY people that have tried to raise a flag and ask for a straight answer and they got punished for it when the conversation gets a little heated. That said, still, this thread is here, and they are talking, so it's better than nothing, we'll see how it goes.

This Topic is ACTUALLY USEFUL. My regards to the devs that are willing to step out and puttheir necks out to addressthese things. That said, don't be surprised if someone does call you to the carpet on something later here, I havea feeling that's what's gonna happen. Please don't close the thread and say it was "getting out of hand" please.

The answer to this question is simple boys and girls: Arkansas = Clinton - - - Texas = Bush Clinton got a wet willie under oval office desk - - - Bush annialated the 9th largest military in the world in 3 days, + 6 if you want to count the additional destruction of stragler units still loyal to Saddam. So, get a Lewinsky or destroy Saddam Hussien's military and invade his country? Um, Texas wins, hands down Sorry Arkansas, you will NEVER live down the blemish that is the Clintons, EVER. Your president got head while ours got Medevil on someone's COUNTRY (two actually). (Lewinsky was a homily b*tch too?! WT*C? Really, risk all that on that tawdry little tart peice of tail? No Texan would stoop so low for so little. Sarah Palin, well, MAYBE, but Lewinsky? Hell no)

Alright, let me dig it up and henI'll touch it upand pass it along.

I was not going to respond, butthat second one, that's it, I couldn't take it. What crack pipe are you smoking? The aperture from the sight recticle moving out from the cross hairs is only useful when staring out into some vast open area. You have no idea how many times I have been scoped in Serpuhov and a flag zooms right by me so fast I can't even let go of the space bar in time, entering from right to left, or vice versa. Having to aim means just that, WE HAVE TO AIM. Just because there is no bob on the barrel anymore doesn't mean we auto"magically" hit whatever it is we want. M2 hulls and above move REALLY quick, and turret rotation of a shaft is not exceptional, in fact, it's painfully slow. I'll hear none of it. Tired of all the auto aimers saying we have some special magical wand for aiming. WE AIM MAUNUALLY DAMN IT! We do all that. And picking off shots from a distance when you have a sliver of turret moving and juking and jiving everywhere is certainly not easy, and auto aimers get the benefit in those instances, so yeah, no, it's a task to say the least. Simple? Lets add this up: 1. Observe the enemy team and look for the pattern they are using to move across the map. 2. Once this is done find a place from which to get the best visibility while hiding yourself the best you can. 3. DON'T SCOPE until there is a target because the stupid laser will give you away. 4. At the first sign of target, start tracking and zooming and hope to hell you can get full charge on them before they zoom out of your range, otherwise loose a shot on someone without a full charge. 3b. DO SCOPE and sit in wait hiding the beam at some angle and use this position to cover you team mates or surprise the enemy, but SWINGING the turret into the line of the enemy and fire before they can escape the beam they see coming towards them. 5. Keep doing the above till the action changes and you have to reassess the pattern of play, reposition and procede to step 1 and repeat. That's REAL shaft play, so I don't see what's so damn easy about all that and manually aiming your weapon. Whatever though, this is just more of the same, shafts are used to this by now. This is something to that I have found. People who don't specialize in a turret tend to make the shaft their kicking bag. Why, I don't know. I just broke down and bought a thunder to complete certain mission types. Not impressed, not that difficult to master, and yes, auto aim, so no, not feeling the other side and their constant sense of entitlement to some elite cast of players. You got auto aim, mobility, and full range of vision, even have that cheaty thingy going on wit the camera from on high thing when playing between buildings.

I mean seriously. Really? Three Star and even you're making that comment. I'm disgusted. Come on. This is the only tank where you have to carefully pick who and when to kill with. Reload is hell, Turret speed is painful, and you'rea sitting duck with laser now. real effective shafting is serious work. Everyone else gets auto aim, we don't. Angles of attack, degrees of arc, all compensated for in the others within reason, point close enough, you hit, period. In fact, last night I was playing and a rail was trying to shoot someone on my left. The tank was moving left to right, and they crossed my path. At that very moment, the rail collided with a building as they were trying to turn their turret and turn their tank atthe same time. Barrel is CLEARLY pointing to somewhere inbetween the two of us tanks on the opposing teams, NOT AT ME or the other person. My team mate escapes the arc of the auto aim but I guess I was still in it, and boom, some glitched up looking rail trail at like a 8 or 10 degree angle hits me from their barrel. I'll hear none of it. Shaft is not an easy weapon to use. Might be easy to grasp the control, but not the use of it. I have also posted about this in Lets Discuss Shaft recently. There does seem to be a resurgence of shafts lately, and I for one am very happy with that, but CTF is a bear when the team your against has 5 or 6 doing base defense. If they drug it's damn near impossible. I for one love it. Makes the games much more mental and forces people to think and slowly pick paths and choose what to do. No more electronic football. I just hope the trend continues, it will change the game play ENTIRELY, and Shafts take the wind out of druggers big time, from Repair Boxes to DA, Shafts make the effectiveness of those two items for less viable. Anyways, yeah for shafts everywhere.