Forget the tables in the starting post.. they are completely outdated. In the meanwhile Fire and Freeze have changed like 2..4 times. Look them up here: link to wiki ~~ Sibirian Kit, Fire M1 -vs- Freez M2 damage:

get Wasp M4 b)

how many firebirds were in your enemies team? The ranks do not allow zeus paint, do they?

I am with you, that reload is more important the rotation (if we compare Rail M2 and M3). But still I consider the rotation as important enough to mention it. You can not always turn your hull as well. If you are on a flagrun and - while driving forward you turn your turret back and return it forw to get an overview - you are done faster with an M3. This buys you time.. this decreases the likelyhood of driving into an obstacle in the meanwhile. What I also do is block enemies in close range combat from turning their hull by pushing into them. An M3 has an easier deal in such a situation Since the Wasp does not flip each time when you blow some air at it, the number of XP/BP battles has increased a lot. You can go BP, and with no doubt you will find battles. Thats a good idea... I will try this out. If you find a good one with usefull training methods, it will improove your gameplay a lot :) As you already have a rail you are already served well for long ranges and camping. Getting a flag: For the midrange fighting in an enemy base a Rico is better suited then a Thunder - because of it's fast reload combined with it's ability to set enemy tanks off of their aim. Defending your flag: For midrange fighting in your own base Rico is also nicer. You can use the bouce-effect to charge them while they are still in a hiding spot, waiting for a goot time to rush in. Once they rushed in, your fast reload enables you to deal multiple enemies. If you are skilled at the bounce, you can stay in cover longer. When they rush out, you still have enough range to persuit them some time. Thunder has the advantage that you can camp effectively in the times between attacks.. but the pure attack and def phase is better done by Rico. There is also no self-damage that the enemy can use against you (if my wasp is low on health I usually drive close up to a thunder, so he harms himself). Disadvantage or Rico is the missing long-range capabilites and that it is very hard to learn it, until you are really, really(!) skilled with it.

for xp bp -> rail first. reload and turret rotation make a real differernce.

I am 99,5% sure it is this one:

I need advise on Atlas Kit (Titan M2, Smoky M2, Loam). I have the rank and the crystals for it.. and it runs out in 4 days. (I will get Mosquito in a week, but this is another story) My playing style My target scenario for the kit: My doubts: Plan: - I'm now thinking of skipping Smoky and Titan M2, and set the crystals aside for the Guardian Kit (Titan M3, Smoky M3, Nano). But this is in.. hmm.. 6 months? xD Question: - have I missed some aspects? - Is there any thing else that can be done with a Atlas kit, that makes it a usefull purchase for me?

This paint can not compete with a healt kit. Health kits are used while a tank is under heavy fire to fix itself up and ignore the effort of his enemies. So as this paint amplifies the damage, a health kit is due earlier.. and so maybe even more health kits will be used by attackers. Today you can already come home and visit the base's Isida for 10 seconds. This pays off much more then waiting 1 minute. An average battle lasts only of 15 minutes.. so you waste valuable time if you hide for healing. Flag runners cant afford that.. they profit from the "healing on the move" while they treat this in for a higher damage received during their attack and way back. I agree to you, that if the parameters are too "powerfull" then the price is a bad regulator. It would be better to tweak the parameters until the paint for itself is balanced (positives aspects in some situations counter out negative effects in other situations)

this is exactly what I use, and where this problem arises. Thanks ;)

As the paints-thread is mainly about the looks and self designed paints.. I think I have to start a topic on my own. I'd like to see a paint, that is called "red cross". - It _amplifies_ the damage you receive by 5..10% This means each shot hurts you more! A smoky shot that comes in with 30 damage, will deal 33 damage. A Thunder shot with 70 damage will deal 77 damage. - The paint heals you the whole time by a rate of: 1,2 hp per second on M0 hulls 1,8 hp per second on M1 hulls 2,4 hp per second on M2 hulls 3,0 hp per second on M3 hulls (wasp healed in ~50sec, Mammuth healed in ~2..3min) I don't want to talk about it's design... but just if you think how it will effect the playing of larger and smaller maps.

I remember this post as well - thanks for the help :) As learned from Hazel in this discussion here, the burning damage (per second) is not y=30*x but it is y=29*x+1 If (x==0) Then y := 0 Those functions were incorporated already. Maybe we should make the DPS charts for Fire M0..M4.. so the players have an orriantation. But I guess the "talk about firebird" thread would be more suitable for that.

^ I'd mentioned that I use the Standalone Flash player, the info was already given in the last lines: Still thanks a lot for your effort. I've edited the post now, to additionally mention the standalone player at the beginning of the post. So it will be more clear.

I log in and I am in the Lobby: ~8..10% CPU load for Standalone Flashplayer 20 process Then - I play a battle and exit... - or - I just wait 10 minutes in the Lobby Then again, while in the Lobby: ~30% CPU load for Standalone Flashplayer 20 process Looks like some threads in your client software gets stuck.. and keep eating CPU. The next time I enter a battle, the CPU usage wents much higher then usual, and my Laptop turns hot. I have not changed my system and I use the same settings as I've ever done. Before I enter a battle: After I've left the battle I run a Intel Core i5-2520M + some additional grafic adapter. Standalone FlashPlayer v20. All grafics settings like I play since a year. HW acceleration active. No, there is no windows update in the background. No, I has nothing to do with a browser cache. Yes, I've alread deleted the flash caches and no, it did no help. Yes, it is reproducable each time I start the flashplayer and log on.

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In which maps / gamemodes / tanks will you equip the paints?

I hope the heating rate is not affected by double Armour.. as then it would reduce the heating AND the burning damage.. which would be.. well.. _strong_ :) I'm pretty sure the paint reduces the heating rate. Reason is, that I have the feeling that a tank protected from freeze, does take longer to "slow down". So the same logic for fire would make sense. About DD.. I have no idea :)

in XP/BP battles microupgrades are off and can not be activated. You have to have an equipment according to this set of rules, in order to participate: http://en.tankiwiki.com/Format_Battles

There are also other parameters, next to hp and speed Still your table reflects my prefferences as well :)

Hazel-Rha, could you please check the table below - I am not sure aout the effect of drugs and Paints on the heating rate.. Thanks a lot !!! :) To all others: I had the reload time of Fire wrong, so I updated the pictures and text in >this post. Nice webpage you have there, Advocatus ;)

^ It is battle map specific. On some maps a hornet is far better then a wasp, and the sturdy viking can also outperform a hunter against some weapons. But thinking about the way I use tanks, and which maps I play -> there I totally agree to you :)

What's up with you dislikers? "waste of crystals" - You _dont_have_to_ buy them.. they are optional - some people are very happy if they receive a gift.. and others are happy if they can make their friends a little happier - receiving a gift microupgrades your smile, which is a very important skill in real life :P "wasted time and effort, better invest in lag reduction, bugs, balance.." - Your wishes require a programmer. But this gift-feature was already developed for xMas. So all they had to do _now_, was design, texts, price definition and advertisement. So there was not much valuable programmer time wasted on this feature. Tanki does some real bad updates from time to time (like the MU update lately -.-).. but if you think about this gift story seriously, you will find it hard to argue that it effects you in a negative way.

^exactly.. All those guys with "different armour per turret" just confuse everybody, with an idea that is not thought through the end..

You talk about the vLog. I talk about the achievements in the profile section ;)

where can I read this information? I remember a mod telling in the forum, that private messages stay private, and no mod can see them. (which is maybe a problem regarding account theft for starters...)

Please make a gift like this!!! Gifting cookies for great work or clever stuff - or simply for almost not messing something up - are part of culture here :