They force players to do most things if players want to continue playing. It's called passive manipulation, they are very good at it. Just look at how many times they have changed the mechanics/parameters of the game to generate more cash and screw players over in a big way, the latest being the upgrading update that has left a lot of accounts useless because they need millions of crystals, which a lot of players do not have. Same old, same old.

Agree. This is caused by 3 key issues in the game. 1-ASL is not conducive on many maps. 2-One side is always more dominant, regardless if they are attacking or defending, this leads to a easy victory even on bad maps. 3-MM itself is flawed beyond repair and is the main cause of NO'2.

Beg to differ. On this we agree. I personally (and lots of other players) have came up with some sound and viable idea's that would improve the game by a huge margin. Your last bit did not make sense but I get what you mean. To implement most idea's from players would be foolish, because most players are clueless on how to go about this in a sensible and constructive manner that would actually improve the game for the majority of players, I am not a fool. I have never claimed that I know what goes into making any game. I also may not know what goes into making a game "come to life" but I do know what causes a game to be constantly full of errors. Basically to much information within the game causes errors because the game can't handle it, that is not the fault of players but the developers. Every time there is an update, the errors are not far behind, this is a undeniable fact. Yes all games may have some bugs in it but THIS game is top of the list for being unplayable for long periods of time. You ever heard the saying "you just walked right into that." I have not seen a single idea implemented in the game that I have mentioned, and I have mentioned quite a lot that would improve the game ten fold. I will get back to you when I can be bothered to list (AGAIN) all the useless and unwanted updates they have brought out that imo players did not ask for. And yes I know that when you said "you" you meant players in general. Like I said, I am not a fool.

Just one of a multitude of very, very, extremely bad updates they think is good for the game. I asked marcus once to start a new account without the perks he enjoys and to keep the players updated on his journey to legend without any help from anyone, no support, no supplies other than what you get as a recruit. If he ever accepts this challenge he will find out just how insanely difficult it is to enjoy the game and not get obliterated in every battle, that is when he can actually get into a battle long enough to finish one.

And there is the reason why punishing players who refresh is a bad idea. The game is error ridden because of all the crap they put into it. remastered maps are the worst offenders, I avoid them as much as I avoid night mode. Constant lag, screen freezing, no damage, getting kicked, wasting supplies and losing all rewards are a frequent bi-product of all the updates and events they bring into the game. It does not matter how many times you refresh or how many times you clear the cache or de-frag and a host of other stuff at your end, the game is full of errors and will not get any better because they either can't be bothered to fix the problems, or they do not no how to fix them. As long as players still spend cash they will continue to ignore the complaints of players and carry on doing what they do best, taking money from the weak willed buyers and those players who thrive on the latest OP gimmick. TO will never improve as far as errors are concerned, because that would take a huge and sustained effort and cash to put right all the mistakes they created, like MM to name but one of the dozens of bad updates they have brought into the game. The game is a complicated, error infested mess.

I mentioned something very similar 2/3 years ago and the devs done zip. The best way to compel players to play is to give them something worth aiming for. The current trophy mission is beyond most players for the simple fact it is a horrendous grind fest. I will never attempt it. Being a legend should have some significance, but it does not. Taking away the 40.000 cry was the last thing I personally strived for in this game. There should be a reward for each time you rank to Legend and it should be based on a upgrading system. For every time you rank your most used combo should be enhanced with an extra 25 HP and your damage output should be increased by lets say 10 HP. This would ensure many more players would put in the time and effort to reach as many Legend ranks as possible. It does not have to be HP. It could be your fav turret takes less time to re-load, or your fav hull gains a bit more speed or your supplies last longer, the possible rewards are endless and would be a huge incentive to all Legend players. At the moment ranking to Legend means nothing and has no status attached to it other than your XP goes up by 200,000. As with many good ideas made available by the player base I expect mine and every other player's to be ignored by the devs, which is the reason why the game has turned into a OP, complicated, error ridden mess.

Here is my survey, It's very simple and straight to the point. What do players like about TO. A...Not much really. What do players dislike about TO. A...Most things actually. Solution. In no particular order. 1. Re-work MM so it actually matches ranks in battle, 2 or 3 ranks either way. 2. Get rid of floating trash cans. 3. Remove all augments. 4. Get rid of night mode. 5. Re-work names and notifications so they "DO NOT" obscure the battle screen at all. 6. Remove overdrives from every hull and go back to the original overdrive. 7. Un-nerf regular containers. 8. Revert back to the upgrading system we had previously. The one we have now makes lower accounts useless. 9. More crystals and less XP after every battle, should be by a factor of at least 2-1. 10. More XP needed at every rank up to marshal, should be at least x3 more XP for each rank. 11. Lower shop prices. 12. Do something, "ANYTHING" with the clan system. At the moment being in a clan means nothing. 13. More crystals when ranking, regardless of rank. 25,000 is a fair amount. 14. Make turrets unique. Stop copy/pasting them with each others unique ability. 15. Fix the no damage bug that constantly affects magnum. 16. Etc, etc, etc.

When are you going to fix your game.....Getting kicked from battles, constant lag and you still have not removed the text wall of notifications and players names from the battle screen that obscures everything. Start acting on player feedback.

Funny but so true.

Players "spend money " to gain an edge, Its called human nature and the devs prey on this like vultures and the buyers could care less because they " get the edge " even though the devs are screwing them over, just as much as they (the buyers) screw over the F2P in battle.

A blatant lie, like most things they say. Wrong. All augments are aimed at a cash profit, to believe anything else is foolish. Remember that the devs lie and manipulate for a living. True enough, but I bet I could make the majority of players content and still turn a viable profit. So all told 60 useless and down graded scam boxes. That is a absolute given. This is exactly how they work. It does not take 20/20 vision to see/understand how much the devs con players. If players continually allow the devs to make fools of them, then that is on them. Neither. But if I had to choose then the blurred pic wins every time.

This is how they operate. Get used to it because their lousy tactics are here to stay. Look at the new upgrading system, it is a cheap trick to force you to spend cash, otherwise your account is rendered useless if you carry on and use it. The devs are the lowest of the low and give nothing for free.

And end up with a 1 legged, blind, deaf and lame donkey attached to a zimmer frame, if your lucky.

When 90% of kills against you is down to lag, you realise just how inadequate the developers are at fixing this and the number of other problems affecting the game.

I no all that, read my post again. I'm asking them why they do not allow crystals to also be saved along with the useless XP.

Why when you get kicked from battles (which is all to regular) do you lose all crystals and score gained but retain XP.

Any potential this game had (past tense) has been eroded into nothing because of greed and there unwillingness to act on "GENUINE" player initiative, that would enhance the game to it's proper potential. They may have come up with the idea and programmed the game, but maintaining it to high levels is not their strong point. I wonder how many accounts are now useless at there current rank because of their wayward and unwanted updates. With the exception of my main, playing the game is now null and void, so I don't. The game is a joke and its all down to their reckless greed.

Just come across this topic. Already your idea fails miserably. Leaving battles is mostly down to the naff servers, lag, bugs, glitches, etc, etc. Didn't bother reading the rest, seemed to much like hard work.

When are you going to fix the no damage, getting kicked, lag and all the other things that do not work.

But will never get sorted and if they do then they will just reappear in different guises and be way worse than they were previously.

Well it's 13 years and counting and they still haven't fixed the lag or the no damage, or getting kicked from battles and losing all rewards. 1-2 years is very, very optimistic, I will go with a time frame of " NEVER", unless it involves cash, then it will be 24hrs.

That's good, because my opinion is correct.

If this is true then they should be banned and their accounts stripped of all the freebies they have been given. Put there accounts back to MK1 and let them reach legend the good "ol" hard way. They could make a video, lets say "THE ROAD TO LEGEND" don't think that's ever been done so they could try that, shouldn't take them that long really.

Erm.....no its not. 300 of each supplies ?. As for premium when will players learn that having premium is very bad if you are not A- a legend, or B- any other rank that has the ability to upgrade everything needed at the various stages of ranking. (zillions of crystals needed) Premium ranks you faster, ranking faster means for most players a very weak garage, which means getting your butt handed to you on a very regular basis in battle, so no, premium is not good for lower ranked players. Spot on. Unbalance being the appropriate word associated with the game as a whole. Bots will never be able to judge a battle the way a normal player can, bots are a waste of time and imo are there as stop gaps, "fillers" to boost numbers. They are putting them in low ranked battles to begin with because at the END GAME ranks bots will just get slaughtered. Unless they make them OP or mimic real players responses, then bots at very high ranked battles will fail miserably. I think fixing the no-damage, the constant lag and getting kicked from battles is more of a priority than working on bots.