Changing the G/S. Smart move from the devs. Lets see how much cash they make from this, they know their player base so well. Just remember that this change will not affect how powerful you are, especially if you are maxed out turret/hull, it will only change your g/s number. Example:- crisis drone. 9999 or 10,000. Makes no difference to how effective it is if it is maxed. Can't wait for the devs to realise this and make amendments accordingly. Lol they never miss a trick.

The old container system gave out to much in the way of crystals/supplies. This is the conclusion I have came to regarding that particular decision made by the devs. Containers like everything else associated with TO have been updated to make it easier for them to make cash. A lot of the items in containers are there as "fillers" so as to water down the half decent prizes you might otherwise get more often. In the main containers and the prizes within are extremely poor. Doubtful. Wouldn't put it past them. There ability to screw players over at every opportunity is their trademark. TO as a whole may be updating to keep up with the times, but in doing so it has become overcrowded with OP, meaningless and for the most part, not wanted updates that only buyers benefit from. Like their containers TO is now a poor and substandard game. The list of complaints against them is so long it would take a massive post to identify all of them and come up with a solution to rectify their many, many mistakes regarding the game and it's player base. Containers are a small part of the affliction that has spread throughout the game, a affliction perpetrated by the devs to undermine players, buyers included. My game time has been cut drastically and I now only come on because I have a maxed acc that needs nothing doing to it. TO is something to do in-between other stuff now, such is the decline it has suffered because of their greed and the manipulation of the game that has players complaining left and right on a regular basis. One mod said the devs prove they listen and act on player feedback. I still find that comment the most hilarious one ever posted, not to mention the fact it's complete bullcrap.

You knew exactly how strong it was when you choose to play it, that's why you use it, no other reason.

The best turret in the game is any turret paired with the broken legal hack (floating trash can) paladin. There you go, a objective appraisal that is a undisputed and undeniable fact. Fact is the best turret is decided by the cash grab devs as to which one they make OP to ensnare the weak willed buyers. Agree. Agree. I take offence to that. I'm the one everyone associates with senseless arguments. ? Couldn't resist it. Well past L50 and this is the cheap reward I get. I didn't even bother claiming it, like I need more speed boosts. Just a slight edit: There is no game balance to discuss really as it does not exist, ergo nothing to discuss.

Gotta say I totally agree with this assessment. TO has been in decline for at least 2-3 years now, like major decline. Most players know the reason behind this so I won't go into text wall mode explaining the multitude of extremely bad decisions made by the devs, (from a players perspective) solely for cash gains. Of course some of the things the devs do for their player base is not for cash, like all the in-game notifications that cover the entire screen throughout a battle, making it very difficult to see anything other than the useless scribbles that appear every second and hinder your ability to actually see the enemy. Way to go hazel......keep up the good work......try acting on player feedback that actually improves gameplay.

Sums up TO very neatly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g16heGLKlTA Of course the devs exploit this system at every opportunity, but it's the players mindset that makes it all to easy for them to carry on exploiting for cash gains. The weak willed nature of certain players, namely, THE BUYERS are trapped in a vicious cycle which they are incapable of escaping because of their "I have to be the best" mentality, which plays straight into the devs cash grab hands.

They cherry pick the ones that suit them and have the least impact on their precious game economy. I have had quite a few sound/valid ideas about how to improve the game and not a single one has ever been mentioned, let alone implemented. 2023 will be like all the previous years before......OP gear = buyers = 1 sided battles = nothing will change for the better for the majority of players. One example of a valid idea. Increase the XP needed to rank for all ranks until you reach marshal by a factor of at least X2. What does this exceptionally valid/good idea mean? It means that these ranks have a better chance to save crystals and strengthen their garage before ranking, which is a major problem atm because ranking is just to easy, especially at the lower ranks. It also means that the terrible MM system (which has not worked since day 1) will at least be viable for the low to mid ranks because more of the same ranks will come together in battle because of the increased XP needed that keeps them at any particular rank for longer. There is no reason that this idea should not be implemented into the game. It makes sense and helps out the low to mid ranks before they reach the critical point of marshal, were MK7s are a must have across the board to have any chance of staying healthy for more than 5 secs with the multitude of ridiculous, OP augments that are crippling the game. And yes I have posted this and many other similar (VALID) ideas in the appropriate QTTD, responses..........................ZERO. Same old, same old.

The new maps all glitch and the lag is terrible. The worst feature that hinders gameplay are the ridiculous amount of names/notifications that block everything from view. You have a good point about shaft.......that's why i never use it anymore.

There are far to many words (names, notifications) on the screen, making it IMPOSSIBLE to see anything in battle. Also when you scroll along in the garage it equips random gear. These two annoyances need reworking ASAP, especially the battle screen which is far to cluttered to identify were the enemy is. This needs sorting ASAP.

So which timer is right? The one on the players homepage or the TF one .

The game is back. THE CONSTANT LAG NEVER LEFT. Sandbox is useless and is the worst map for lag. Forrest is worse than useless. Your re-mastered maps are far to cluttered. Get rid of all the names and notifications in battles so we can actually see the enemy. It's about time you started listening to player feedback and act on it. Your ideas on what constitutes new and challenging game play is just not working. Magnum is also useless. Half the time you do no damage with it. Lets see how many you can fix before the year is out.

Well those separate 3 offers are not there? The only one that is, is the lucky charm one. Also I can't log into my account because when I try it says wrong email/password which is of course totally wrong. Any ideas how to log in?

@NikmanGT Does the special offer in the shop (press start) include you in the tanki fund if you purchase it?

Be nice to know why the game keeps crashing. Is it lack of servers. Could it be the mini-game causing the problem. To many players disrupting the server. Yip would be nice to know what is actually causing these problems.....Over to you hazel. I'm not bothered about "token of apologies" but i would like a hefty sum of supplies (including batteries) that have been wasted during yet another TO meltdown.

Servers down again, this is the norm now.

Welcome to the "UNFAIR" biased world of TO. Will you guys never learn. TO is for buyers only and if you insist on playing their dumb childish games (lol lollipops, really) then be prepared to get swindled EVERY TIME. For those that fall for it "every time" no sympathy, you don't deserve it.

Good luck with that. Who or whatever outside influence is destabilising the game will continue to do so, if that is indeed the case. And if it is that, the devs obviously have no straight up measures to prevent it. Now if it's just the servers playing up because there is not enough of them, or because their updates are interfering with game play, then it's time to change the guard. Out with incompetence and greed and in with fresh ideas and those that can maintain gameplay when updates are implemented.

@mrvomit Yip, same old problems. The devs of course no the problem but say nothing.

That would be 99% of them then?

Then what is it? Only joking. I no exactly what it is and hulls/overdrives are just a part of it. I do not play jug very often, just on occasion as i find it a rather annoying game mode. As for vikings being more of a problem than the legal hack paladin......nah, nowhere close.

Lag, getting kicked from battles, not being able to re-enter battles, glitch, glitch, etc, etc. The game is dead, long may it continue. Useless peace of crap.

The mechanics of TO have ruined most battles for most players. Jug is no match for a determined player with 1 or more OP augments at his disposal, namely paladin, (overdrive) which is the most broken piece of equipment since hornets infamous overdrive. On the whole most jug players are as bright as a low watt lightbulb in deep space. TO is severely broken. All the OP augments and the floating trash cans, along with a multitude of other things are why being the jug is so hard. My original post would make jug mode more appealing to play in, just keep those trash cans out and it's game on.

I was taking you seriously until I read above Floating trash cans HAVE ruined the game and augments for the most part are a cash grab designed to generate cash with no thought to balance, just like most things in TO. How is it that the three hardest hulls to take out are all floating ones. Regardless of the mode the trash cans have a unfair advantage, especially paladin. As a youtuber why don't you give us a break down (A VID) of what's fair and what is not in TO. The negatives will far outweigh any positives by a huge margin. As for my initial quote. For those of us that despise the floating trash cans it was and is a favourable option.

As far as jug mode goes i disagree. A lot of battles regardless of mode (except TDM) has a lot of campers. In order for jug battles to be more competitive for the player who is jug two things need to happen. 1. 50% more HP protection. 2. Nothing affects juggernaut except regular damage and one overdrive, lets say mammoth as it is the slowest and hardest hull to conceal in battle. Implementing these two would give the jug player more freedom to get out there and battle the enemy, instead of hiding from all the OP gimmicks behind the nearest wall/building. There is a 3RD option available. No paladins allowed in jug with their legal hack overdrive that was nerfed but still lets them dominate in battles. All floating trash cans should be scrapped, they have ruined gameplay along with all the augments.

Lots of positive posts as usual ? To the developers:- You either never listen (care) about complaints (player feedback) or you just don't learn from your mistakes and there have been many. Either way regardless of how you approach the multitude of complaints, nothing ever gets fixed and if it does (which is rare) it soon breaks again are gets replaced by another problem and the vicious cycle of poor game play continues unabated because of your inability/lack of caring to address/fix the problems that blight the game every single day. You keep putting prices up in the shop. You have downgraded container rewards. You have made ranking up a mockery-the reward of 1000 cry is pathetic. Having to FULLY upgrade a drone to compete in battle is a sham. (CASH GRAB) Constantly nerfing/buffing garage equipment/augments, etc is another pure cash grab and a shameful example of your non caring attitude towards players. The list of complaints about YOU (the developers) and the never ending bugs/glitches/lag in battles increases every day and what do you do about it, You bring out more updates that compound the issues (that you never fix) and ask for more cash. This post and it's "content" and posts (complaints) from many other players is the reason why player numbers have dwindled over the years, to a fraction of what they used to be. Fix the game, get rid of all floating trash cans and seriously consider scrapping the atrocious MM set up (never worked since day 1) You should also make it so that crystals earned in battles is always higher than XP. A ratio in favour of crystals by 3-1 seems fair, especially as most players rank up far to quickly and have no resources (crystals) to upgrade the necessary equipment in their garage to be competitive in battles. Also ranking up should be increased across all ranks by a factor of 3. This will help out greatly in upgrading and maintain a semblance of balance in battles as players will keep their rank for longer, making it more likely they will face their rank (give are take 2 ranks either way) in battle because there will be more players of the same rank due to the increased XP needed (time) taken to rank. This at the very least must be introduced into the game ASAP. Once you attain the rank of LEGEND the XP needed to rank further can be as it is now. So there you have it. A list of legitimate complaints and a list of fixes that would help players out enormously. On a side note. I hardly play now and i have a maxed out everything account and supplies/crystals to back it up. That in itself should tell you how disappointing TO has become. This will be my last meaningful post of note/length in the forum. Act now and prove you "actually" address the posts players put in the forum and start acting on the sensible ones. We do not need more shot effects/skins/new turrets/hulls, etc. We need a stable, balanced and affordable game that can be enjoyed by most, not just the players with the most cash.