Been there, done that, got nowhere. I know he used the word "if" and I know what that tiny word represented in his post. Nevertheless mods and even more so the devs should be mindful that whatever they post is taken literally by a large number of players, for this reason alone his post was misleading. And no I'm not blind or deliberately overlooking anything and yeah I know you used the word "perhaps". I'm also not a dumb sheep follower, I say what I see in the game and my posts are a accurate reflection on what I see every single day/night. 2023....Same old, same old repetitive OP nonsense. Same old nerf/buff cycle. Same old never acting on player feedback that would actually make a difference to a lot of players in a positive way. So no I won't stop. As regarding being rewarded "lavishly" ?This does not compare to the huge amount of negative updates that have cost players a lot just to "try" and compete in battles dominated by the latest OP cash grab, which only certain players benefit from. As for solutions, I've gave quite a few, to many to go over them again. As for working towards the welfare of the game, players would like nothing better. It's the devs who keep corrupting the welfare of the game and players have no say on how the game can be improved, even though there are quite a few who have solid ideas. Unless ideas by players coincides with whatever the devs have planned players will always be treated like 3RD class nobodies. You have a nice day in whatever dreamland you reside in.

To be fair to the mod (and this is a rarity for me) he is as much in the dark on how MM works as regular players are, which consolidates what I said. Mods should not presume anything until they know the facts as some players hang on their every word. The devs never explained how MM works, just like they never explained how efficiency rating works.

I am allowed to presume. If you presume (and your previous post was not worded as a presumption imo) then players will take it literally. What would I base MM on. You really want to go there.

Do me a favour.

Does it though? Are you stating that G/S has a effect on MM and puts you in a battle suited to your G/S. If your answer to this is yes then it further corroborates how useless MM is.

Changing the G/S. Smart move from the devs. Lets see how much cash they make from this, they know their player base so well. Just remember that this change will not affect how powerful you are, especially if you are maxed out turret/hull, it will only change your g/s number. Example:- crisis drone. 9999 or 10,000. Makes no difference to how effective it is if it is maxed. Can't wait for the devs to realise this and make amendments accordingly. Lol they never miss a trick.

The old container system gave out to much in the way of crystals/supplies. This is the conclusion I have came to regarding that particular decision made by the devs. Containers like everything else associated with TO have been updated to make it easier for them to make cash. A lot of the items in containers are there as "fillers" so as to water down the half decent prizes you might otherwise get more often. In the main containers and the prizes within are extremely poor. Doubtful. Wouldn't put it past them. There ability to screw players over at every opportunity is their trademark. TO as a whole may be updating to keep up with the times, but in doing so it has become overcrowded with OP, meaningless and for the most part, not wanted updates that only buyers benefit from. Like their containers TO is now a poor and substandard game. The list of complaints against them is so long it would take a massive post to identify all of them and come up with a solution to rectify their many, many mistakes regarding the game and it's player base. Containers are a small part of the affliction that has spread throughout the game, a affliction perpetrated by the devs to undermine players, buyers included. My game time has been cut drastically and I now only come on because I have a maxed acc that needs nothing doing to it. TO is something to do in-between other stuff now, such is the decline it has suffered because of their greed and the manipulation of the game that has players complaining left and right on a regular basis. One mod said the devs prove they listen and act on player feedback. I still find that comment the most hilarious one ever posted, not to mention the fact it's complete bullcrap.

You knew exactly how strong it was when you choose to play it, that's why you use it, no other reason.

The best turret in the game is any turret paired with the broken legal hack (floating trash can) paladin. There you go, a objective appraisal that is a undisputed and undeniable fact. Fact is the best turret is decided by the cash grab devs as to which one they make OP to ensnare the weak willed buyers. Agree. Agree. I take offence to that. I'm the one everyone associates with senseless arguments. ? Couldn't resist it. Well past L50 and this is the cheap reward I get. I didn't even bother claiming it, like I need more speed boosts. Just a slight edit: There is no game balance to discuss really as it does not exist, ergo nothing to discuss.

Gotta say I totally agree with this assessment. TO has been in decline for at least 2-3 years now, like major decline. Most players know the reason behind this so I won't go into text wall mode explaining the multitude of extremely bad decisions made by the devs, (from a players perspective) solely for cash gains. Of course some of the things the devs do for their player base is not for cash, like all the in-game notifications that cover the entire screen throughout a battle, making it very difficult to see anything other than the useless scribbles that appear every second and hinder your ability to actually see the enemy. Way to go hazel......keep up the good work......try acting on player feedback that actually improves gameplay.

Sums up TO very neatly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g16heGLKlTA Of course the devs exploit this system at every opportunity, but it's the players mindset that makes it all to easy for them to carry on exploiting for cash gains. The weak willed nature of certain players, namely, THE BUYERS are trapped in a vicious cycle which they are incapable of escaping because of their "I have to be the best" mentality, which plays straight into the devs cash grab hands.

They cherry pick the ones that suit them and have the least impact on their precious game economy. I have had quite a few sound/valid ideas about how to improve the game and not a single one has ever been mentioned, let alone implemented. 2023 will be like all the previous years before......OP gear = buyers = 1 sided battles = nothing will change for the better for the majority of players. One example of a valid idea. Increase the XP needed to rank for all ranks until you reach marshal by a factor of at least X2. What does this exceptionally valid/good idea mean? It means that these ranks have a better chance to save crystals and strengthen their garage before ranking, which is a major problem atm because ranking is just to easy, especially at the lower ranks. It also means that the terrible MM system (which has not worked since day 1) will at least be viable for the low to mid ranks because more of the same ranks will come together in battle because of the increased XP needed that keeps them at any particular rank for longer. There is no reason that this idea should not be implemented into the game. It makes sense and helps out the low to mid ranks before they reach the critical point of marshal, were MK7s are a must have across the board to have any chance of staying healthy for more than 5 secs with the multitude of ridiculous, OP augments that are crippling the game. And yes I have posted this and many other similar (VALID) ideas in the appropriate QTTD, responses..........................ZERO. Same old, same old.

The new maps all glitch and the lag is terrible. The worst feature that hinders gameplay are the ridiculous amount of names/notifications that block everything from view. You have a good point about shaft.......that's why i never use it anymore.

So which timer is right? The one on the players homepage or the TF one .

The game is back. THE CONSTANT LAG NEVER LEFT. Sandbox is useless and is the worst map for lag. Forrest is worse than useless. Your re-mastered maps are far to cluttered. Get rid of all the names and notifications in battles so we can actually see the enemy. It's about time you started listening to player feedback and act on it. Your ideas on what constitutes new and challenging game play is just not working. Magnum is also useless. Half the time you do no damage with it. Lets see how many you can fix before the year is out.

Well those separate 3 offers are not there? The only one that is, is the lucky charm one. Also I can't log into my account because when I try it says wrong email/password which is of course totally wrong. Any ideas how to log in?

@NikmanGT Does the special offer in the shop (press start) include you in the tanki fund if you purchase it?

Be nice to know why the game keeps crashing. Is it lack of servers. Could it be the mini-game causing the problem. To many players disrupting the server. Yip would be nice to know what is actually causing these problems.....Over to you hazel. I'm not bothered about "token of apologies" but i would like a hefty sum of supplies (including batteries) that have been wasted during yet another TO meltdown.

Servers down again, this is the norm now.

Welcome to the "UNFAIR" biased world of TO. Will you guys never learn. TO is for buyers only and if you insist on playing their dumb childish games (lol lollipops, really) then be prepared to get swindled EVERY TIME. For those that fall for it "every time" no sympathy, you don't deserve it.

Good luck with that. Who or whatever outside influence is destabilising the game will continue to do so, if that is indeed the case. And if it is that, the devs obviously have no straight up measures to prevent it. Now if it's just the servers playing up because there is not enough of them, or because their updates are interfering with game play, then it's time to change the guard. Out with incompetence and greed and in with fresh ideas and those that can maintain gameplay when updates are implemented.

@mrvomit Yip, same old problems. The devs of course no the problem but say nothing.

That would be 99% of them then?

Then what is it? Only joking. I no exactly what it is and hulls/overdrives are just a part of it. I do not play jug very often, just on occasion as i find it a rather annoying game mode. As for vikings being more of a problem than the legal hack paladin......nah, nowhere close.

Lag, getting kicked from battles, not being able to re-enter battles, glitch, glitch, etc, etc. The game is dead, long may it continue. Useless peace of crap.