there are plenty of tutorials online, including utube and a dedicated forum.....

Does it really matter, Krako? To put it simply, we don't have enough moderators. But imho, it doesn't really matter. The forum is ok as it is, ok, it could be better, but I don't think it's much of a problem. There are some people, yes, who are flooding the forum meaninglessly, and that should be stopped. But to crackdown like you did was just dumb, and we don't need that. The forum mods at the moment, in my opinion, are doing a pretty fine job as much as they can, and the "spam" which you seem to talk about isn't really there. One thing's for sure, it all certainly is not spam. Spam is "Senseless posts about money" (as cablaz once put it), and there isn't much of that. Maybe you should check your dictionary and grammar before posting next time. +1

hes 50 years old and unemployed. hes got nothing else to do, leave the poor guy alone :lol:

panzerboy, for a guy of your age, there must be better things for you to do with your life; like spending time with your family, working, sports, travel etc than spending most of the day everyday playing tanki or writing super long mails in this forum? i mean you actually admit to enjoying the 'debate' in this thread :lol: if your life is that sad that you get enjoyment from writing drivel on internet forums you want to have a rethink. or is it that perhaps you live in the basement of your mums house and spend all day living as a keyboard warrior on various websites, with the tedium only broken by the 3 times daily visit of good old mom bringing down a bowl of home made soup to the darkened little grief pit you confine your self to?

Is that lol agreeing with skitee or panzer? :mrgreen: As for me, I agree with skitee. great post from the skittle. the lol was due to waiting for the reply (still waiting) from panzerboy.

Thank you panzer for a balanced and sensible reply to my question. I think, however, that you miss the point of my statement. My statement is not to say that you should drug back, or that you should be able to win back: I'm not saying that. That is fact that you can't control players in your team, and however much you drug you just cannot sometimes win the battle that way. I found this out not so long ago, I was one of the strongest players in the match and I was full drugging, yet my team lost 5-1. Why? My team-mates, to put it simply, were newbs. They weren't playing badly, but against the higher weapons on the enemy team, they had no chance, and without a team, neither did I. My point from my statements on this topic and on the other one can be summed up as this: I want to show not that drugging is right, but that people who complain about drugging are hypocrites. Basically, the same people who complain about druggers and people who spend $$$ of cash on drugs will be the same people who are proud about the fact that they buy crystals (Snyper22 is an example of this). The same people who say drugging is unfair will join a game with their m3 - m3 combo and ruin it for newbies. The same people who write topics about drugging and how bad it is, will, at the same time, post on another topic saying to newbies who complain about the unfairness of higher ranks' dominance, saying how "it is just the game" and "people who play for a long time and who spend cash should be rewarded". Strikes me of a bit of hypocrisy, does it not? This is what I mean by "imbalanced morals". Basically, let me put it in another way, helping you see it in this light. For what you call in your posts: -"Drugs".... replace that word in your mind with "crystals" whenever you see it. -"People who spend cash on drugs"... replace that with "people who spend cash on m3 garages". -"People who join a game and ruin it by drugging", could be replaced with "people who join a game with their m3 - m3 and ruin the game by owning". -"No-supplies games" can be replaced by "Games with a tiny rank limit". -"Drugging" can be replaced by "Buying". -And so on, and so forth. Switch these words, and you have a very different yet fundamentally similar post: any people who complain about crystals and buyers and the like, would be complaining about one aspect of tanki that some people take advantage of and others cannot take advantage of, for whatever means. And the thing is, many people would have these complaints. And another fact is, you would quite probably be the first in line to jump in front and criticise these people because of their lack of logic and ill-sense. You see my point? In my opinion, people who complain about drugs are equal to people who complain about buyers, people who play a lot and get big funds that way, people who are epicly skilled, and the like. I see no difference. Explain to me what is the difference between: "buying/playing well and earning an m3 garage", and "drugging", and then I may see it differently. Whilst your answer is sensible and balanced, and that is fact, at the same time you still did not really answer my question: you instead answered what you thought to be hidden ideas behind my question, about drugging back and all that sort of thing. Answer my question on face value: Other than the fact that you consider earning lots of crystals (by whatever means) and then using your m3 garage which you got as a result of that (whether or not you have an m3 garage or not is irrelevant the fact is that you would use it if you got it) fine, even against lower ranks/non-buyers who cannot get such a garage, and you consider drugging not to be fine, what is the difference? And about sounding intellectual, sorry if I did. I do not intend to be intellectual, I try to act myself and speak from my heart. If my heart is intellectual (as I hope it isn't, but it may be), then too bad. But I doubt that it is. lol

hahahaha where to start here. i guess first off a massive laugh at the old men jumping in the thread to support each other in this totally futile campaign to change the game. this thread of whimpering rants, is, after all brought about by frustration. yes some very frustrated old men here. dress it up how you like the bottom line is you want to play in games where 'druggers' cant come and spoil 'your' games. apparently you dont have enough of these games because people will not spend 500 crystals a month to play these games. well, what does that tell you? what has tickled me most of all in this thread has been the reaction of some like panzer boy and maddogneverwins at learning the amounts some people spend on the game. actually if you were to know how much some people i know spend on the game i could see a mass nervous breakdown of the over 50 community. i loved the 'what an average family spends on food' line. in fact im still laughing now. lol. what relevance to anyone playing a game does what the average american family spends on food have? perhaps you should compare the fact that in some 3rd world countries a family lives off of a buck a day? oh wait, no relevance there either. what one person is willing to spend, has little relevance to another. the value of a dollar varies depending on the wealth of the certain individual involved. just because the amounts quoted seem like a lot of money to you, doesnt mean its even noticed from the bank account by others. after all the very small amount of money that panzer boy says he has spent on this game would shock a family living on a dollar a day. perhaps in the same way my and others spending has shocked poor old panzer. i am by no means the highest spender in this game and its shocking to think you cant imagine that people would spend this, and in some cases several times more amount on a game. maddogneverwins. your comments entertained me most. not only did you feel the need to jump in, without i may add commenting on the subject at hand, but the comments gave a hilarious account into your view of how the world works and the stereotypical opinion you have about the world and those that live in it. according to you everyone that has wealth is too busy sat in an office on wall street making deals with their stock broker, or sailing around the west indies with a harem of super models sipping champagne and eating caviar. no one with any money is allowed to, or would want to play a game online. awesome statement maddog. so then i look at you old guys playing this game, a lot of you spend far too much time involved with this game for people of your passing years. what does this say about you? maddog, lieutenantme constantly online no matter when i log in. both of you if not playing then in chat talking drivel and getting off chastising kids. seriously is that what your life has become? lieutenantme i still smile at your sad attempt to mock me for not leveling up in over 2 months! perhaps i should live on tanki like you do? panzerboy. look at this thread, the arguments you put forward here, the out and out insults that you dish out to anyone that has a different opinion to yours. seriously its a cliche but you old guys need to get a life. at your age you would have thought that you would realise that there is more to life than becoming obviously irate at a computer game. or perhaps the escape of a virtual world is some solace to the empty unfulfilled life that you are nearing the end of. carry on with your little demonstration here. ive had enough of it, besides the comic value. good luck, MM.

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sorry but lol @ this statement unfair 'since druggers do not have to "pay to play" seriously lol. people that dont buy crystals freeload from those that do. not only do you want to freeload, you want to change the game so that the tiny amount of crystals it costs to play a no supply game is removed. ensuring a totally free game for the likes of you. like i said if anyone can freeload (like you) they will. more people that can freeload they will. you advocate a growth in free pass games so that there are more types of these games for you to play. making the game better for you at no cost. great buisness model. no encouragement at all for people to spend. you work for a bank by any chance? as for the ranting lol read up a little bit and see the insults and arrogance in your post, its beyond belief.

contrary to what most people believe, most druggers dont drug to win a game against non druggers. Most drug because it makes the game faster and more fun to play. I would much rather play in a game where everyone drugs. playing against a team that does not drug simply isnt fun and is boring. also heavy druggers (most) dont really care about the crystal fund, its a small drop in the ocean in comparison to the amounts spent. as i eluded to in a previous post - to have a 2 tier game. servers for drug games and servers for no supply. i believe it has been discussed before but the only way i can think to resolve this issue is to have a subscription. a weekly or monthly subscription, one subscription for no supply battles and another at a higher cost for drug battles (drugs would be infinite after subscribing). This would allow players to choose the type of battle that fits them, and their pocket. servers could be split accordingly and everyone is happy! if people want changes they cant expect to play for free. a 10$ a month charge for no supply should be within everyones reach, even kids with pocket money!

many arab players here. should defo get a server. if there is a server for both of the german players, then why not.

Interesting suggestion... maybe we could think of a way to bring revenue to Tanki some other way so that it would replace the money that people spend on drugs??? just a thought, inspired by jordanrusson's post, and then they may be more likely to change how the game is played a bit... people spending $1000 a month on drugs. this is what keeps tanki going, this is what will deliver tanki2. why would the devs want to limit the income of the game just because some players (that dont contribute any $$$) dont like the way the game is set up? i reiterate; you only play tanki for free because of the people that actually spend money. there wouldnt be a game if it wasnt for them. understand? why is it kids of 12/13 can grasp this simple concept, but you fail to do so? tanki is not and will never be a free to play game.

why not have 2 versions of tanki? one for the people who cant afford to buy, and another for the people that pay to keep the game going for the freeloaders that moan all the time?

mmmmm drugs and violence. yum yum.

i run i7 and 16 GB RAM. 30 MB interweb. slight overkill :D however the ping isnt as fast as our russian friends...... i wait for the day of Geo, top end servers. Well i can always hope :roll:

LOL at people moaning about drugs.

Good effort :thumbup: --------------------------------------------------------- Leeds was 'like a scene from Zulu' - AF

good news :thumbup:

how you going to tackle the problem of mults? easy for some people cheat this......

you need to get out more, or get a girl/boyfriend

M3's and loads of other stuff. nice ranking n that. Cheers. MM

thunder is fine as it is....no more o.p than any other gun.

map will not load for me.get grey screen then connection closed by server :( Great map too.