I think many are missing the point with the new 'balancing' of twins and mammoth in the near future. There is a reason for these to be nerfed / weakened, and that is because they are currently OVER-powered. I dont think its fair to give refunds to people who purchased something because it was OVERpowered... This way it is made more fair, I dont think twins will be useless after the new physics, it would be stupid for them to make it a useless gun. It will still have benefits of using, and it will still be a viable option, however it will be more in-line with the usefulness of other turrets. Twins + Mammoth currently dominate DM matches for the most part, and that is unfair, that you get a massive advantage using such a combo. It ruins DM mode for other players who dont own this combo. I think each combo should have a fair chance at winning, and everything should be truly 'balanced.' As for mammoth, I dont think it will be 'useless' as some say either. It still will be a force not to be reckoned with, its HP will still be the highest, and it still will win the 'push and shove' battles. (When defending flags for example.) Previously, it was too fast for its high HP, and those who used drugs became nearly un-killable if you werent using a mammoth+drugs to counter them. Now it will be put back into its place, where it should belong. Nothing should be 'best' or 'better' than other hulls/turrets, but each should be unique, and serve a purpose. There should be no win-all-combo. I agree with the reBALANCING of these two pieces of equipment. However, I do feel that a refund should be made due to the huge change in the feel/speeds of hulls... its rather insane, the amount of change that will be taking place, (And I LOVE it - it will seperate the pros from the noobs even more - proving who has the skill to control the speedy hulls and use them to their full ability - and also make the game more fun by increasing the pace of each match. Everyone will have to be on their toes even more, so as not to allow the enemy to slip in and steal the flag if you look away for a mere second.) But if the developers of the game choose not to refund... well its simply our loss.. and its a sad one, but they seem very firm about their words, and we must just accept it.

I own almost all M1's, except hornet/viking/dictator/thunder. Own m2 isida/m2 freeze, and electra/tundra. I currently have 100k crystals, and not too sure what I want to purchase... hoping new phyics will come before a sale does... Im considering the following (taking new phyics into consideration): M2 dictator, M2 rail, M2 firebird, m2 wasp, m2 smoky? Sadly fire/wasp/smoky are far away, rank-wise. I regret purchasing m2 freeze, m1 shaft, m1 twins, and m1 ricochet... Coulda saved me around 120k crystals, had I not made all those unnecessary purchases. Ive only used twins like a handful of times, since having it for 5 months... rico m1 is fun occasionally, but can't be used in-game and expect decent scores... m2 freeze is good, but I dont enjoy using it that much, I prefer using my M2 isida. M1 shaft is useless since I'm a good railgun user.

I have an idea... I think this would solve most players issues when facing teams that full-drug. It would make the game fair for everyone, and allow teams to focus a bit more on skill. So you know how it seems to take about 75 seconds or so, for drugs to be re-usable again, after they run out... and once you die, you can immediately press 2345 again...Well how about the timer is increased, and upon respawning, the timer does not reset, but continues cooling down from where it was when the drugger died / last used the drugs? For example, change the timer to 150 seconds, but the drugs still only last for 1 minute and if you die, you still have to wait for them to cooldown. This way, people cannot continually spam drug NONSTOP for the entire game, and the use of drugs will become much more strategical - people will only be able to use 1 set every 2-3 minutes, and this will not allow teams to show up at your flag with 3-4 full druggers at once - unless they all strategically told each other to drug at the same time, for a planned raid.

THIS. Seriously, at my rank, if it cost around 2k crystals... I would buy it in a heart-beat, and all these problems would be solved. Honestly, even if I had to fight people using Kits with OP modified equips and paints which they are nowhere near unlocking, if they didnt have the drugs, us 'skilled' players could honestly stand a chance. In my opinion, its the combination of drugs being used WITH the OP equips that makes them 'invincible.' Most of them who have purchased the new Kits at early ranks, also full-drug 80% of the time... This results in their Kill/death ratios being over 4.00 consistently... while charging into groups of enemies 1v6. Its just nonsense.

Really? I thought it was a constant, despite changes in modification. Will do a little testing on this myself.

I would LOVE this.... PLEASE make this.. I will love tanki for the rest of my life. lol I guarantee tons of people here share my opinion on this. *sorry for double post

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You get to use everything, despite not being of proper rank. :( Dont do it!!! You're gonna be overpowered and people will hate you. lol. >_>

I was hoping you all would respond in like fashion. ^ Maybe the reason for this is because most forumers seem to be my rank or higher... so they can join the NSB matches in server 2... unlike myself, who only has 2-3 NSB's open... if that.

You sound rather bored... after your persistence over the last year or so, how do you feel about this game now, in comparison to when you first started? Are you still motivated to progress and keep playing? Idk, the above comments make it sound like you have little hope for this now lol. Personally I've found comfort in playing low-ranked battles with friends, m0/m1's [Warrant Officer 5 or lower] There are far less druggers - and even when they drug, you can often still manage to take care of them. Also, Im looking forward to the new physics. It will make wasp m1 have 12.0 speed or so, which will be super fun in the early matches. I plan to make more friends to play with using m0/m1's to avoid the druggers/buyers with the new OP kits... Also adopting a more casual view of gameplay, more for fun, rather than using what I think is the best, statistically and strategically. I play with wasp+thunder m0 and using the ground shots/splash damage and other techniques, its alot of fun. I plan to use Rico m0 plenty too, once the physics update comes.

Yes, of course. It simply will give you all the items included in the kit and allow you to use them however you like in your garage.

5000 Isn't pocket change, however many non-buyers feel almost forced to purchase SOME drugs, the occasional 100 supplies kit package, or 20-50 double powers, for emergency situations... if these were instead spent towards a No-Supplies battle pass - which would be used ALOT in server 27, then I believe it would truly be worth it. Not only is it fairly cheap (if you play on a daily basis and are a decent to skilled player) but it will be WAY more enjoyable. Its simply annoying and frustrating to fight druggers. To rid of this frustration alone is worth 5,000 crystals IF there are plenty of games to join with No-Supplies.

This topic wasn't created only for people at our rank, but from Warrant Officer 1, and onwards, there are tons of players who full-drug the entire match. I've even seen full-drugging Sergeants. Also, your response is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the use of drugs? Yes, I know most no-supplies battles are created for higher ranked players, but that should change. I'd like to see Server 27 active with 30+ no-supplies battles for all ranks. A very large part of the community hates when others drug, it ruins any bit of fairness, and no matter how much skill the non-drugger has, and how much of a lack of skill the drugger has, he still has a massive advantage despite being a worse player.

Due to the fact that more people will be purchasing drugs with the 1000 Supply kit... gameplay will be ruined even more for the non-buyers in this community. To avoid these annoying druggers, I would like to play in No-Supplies battles, but the problem is that not enough matches exist. The idea behind this thread is to make the community aware that we should create our No-Supplies matches all in Server 27, so that all of us who spent our hard-earned crystals on No-Supplies Battle Passes can get full use out of them, and rather than being spread out across multiple servers, we all unite together. I'd like to hear what you all think about this, as I believe it would truly make the game more fun for those of us who wish not to waste our hard-earned crystals on drugs. (Clearly Tanki is trying to make alot of money by selling drugs at reduced prices - as they are perishable items that must be repurchased once you run out. If we all come together on Server 27, then it is a win-win situation for the druggers, and for us who wish to avoid such unfair matches.) If we can quickly disperse this information to all other forumers / people we meet in-game, I think this will quickly solve our problems. ***Note: It does not have to be server 27... any server really. At the time of creating this post, Server 27 was the last one on the list, so it stood out and would be easily recognizable. At this point, 3 more servers have been added for a total of 30, and I'm sure more will be added in the future. Whatever the case, this would solve the problems of many who wish to play without druggers intruding and ruining their games.

I feel your pain... I havent experienced this exactly... but oh boy have I had my share of frustration with noobs. For example, when you're on full drugs, capping in a map like Combe, and trying not to waste drugs... so you bring the flag to your base and place it at the top (where 3 of your teammates are sitting) and drop it, quickly returning for a second flag before your drugs run out to avoid wasting any time... You kill three of the enemies on the way back, only 1 made it past you... 1 wasp with Orange paint + m0 twins..... vs your 3 ***** teammates who are messing around with the flag you just dropped off... The wasp twins m0 orange paint kills your team and returns the flag, and takes your teams flag... by this time, you've died due to all the enemies respawning, and now your team is 1 flag behind, with 1 minute left in the match... enemies start drugging for defense... nothing you can do... you're first place on your team... 800 points... everyone else on your team (who have been there the entire game) have no more than 250 points, and 0.1 D/L ratios, while you're there with an 8.0 D/L... you coulda won 1200 crystals for your first place... But nope. The noob enemy team won because your even more noob teammates were being stupid.

I agree with DYKT here. I think if we can master the wasp, and use its ability to turn on a coin, and race past hornets and all other hulls, and use it with its max potential, in the right maps, it should be unstoppable.

How much better is M2 rail in comparison to M1 though? The increase of 12-20 damage seems so minimal... and reload rate from 8.3 -> 8.4... you're not getting much for 90k crystals... Even thunders m1->m2 and Smoky m2->m3 look more promising than Rail m1-m2 lol... I'd like someone to convince me that its purple lazer is worth my 90k crystals... :/

Just an attempt at being optimistic.... You know... to pretend we... the customers, actually have some sort of say in what goes on around here. Dream with me lmao.

Agreed. Strange place to post this thought though haha. Lets start a petition!

Can freeze be used effectively with dictator? I'm thinking of using dictator+freeze with the new physics... since it seems that hunter will be less useful... 'lower acceleration' is kind of a big deal when using close-range weaponry. (I'm sorta asking if freeze's Y axis is large enough to hit enemies ramming your sides.)

Does dictator+freeze work well?

I realize this, however my team was on full-****** mode, and the enemies double power M2 rails were shooting at me nonstop with like 5 isidas up there and mines... my isida's were being 1shot killed by the rails, and yeah lool. ------------------- I have 120k crystals. Should I buy Rail m2 or Rico M2... (Then ima prolly aim for firebird m2 once I rank twice to use with m1 wasp's insane speed with new physics.) Or should I get an M2 hull... I own none. Was really planning on getting m2 Hunter, up until I found out about the new phyics coming. Now I feel like there may be better options. Im a speed lover (Wasp) at heart... and I like all the weapons really... except shaft.

Smoky M3 vs Rail m3? What do you higher levels prefer? I dont expect myself to ever reach such high ranks, but I'm just curious. I see many M2 Smoky+ M2Wasp's in Kungur in first place.

Not sure about Hunter M1, because you gotta take into account the new physics coming. I'd buy rail/paint for now. Then save your crystals and hopefully by the time new phyics come out, you will have savedd enough crystals for a good m1/m2 hull.

Lol... i tried to do this once... except the enemy placed around 4,000 mines EVERYWHERE on top of the base, and the 3 small ramps, I used around 300 drugs just for fun, (Ive never used more than like 30 in a game before) Using m1 titan m2 isida and electra paint... I was only able to cap 1 flag. They had 2 Full drugging M2 rail+titan users, mining the place up nonstop for about 2 hours straight, while shooting on double power... All I could do was suicide into mines, and hope my team would do the same, so we could get past the mines faster than they could drop them... -We finally won... I was only doing it cause my friend was there, low ranked, and was helping him get a few crystals, and it was so hilarious with all those mines haha.