I tried entering any battle and the Avg wait time is 3m!. Actually, I waited up to 6m without entering any battle (Capture the Flag, Deathmatch, Assault). I will not be surprised if they have another server restart when the "developers" recover.

Agreed! and WOT has a true Matchmaking system where you are dumped into a random battle but never outranked by more than 1 rank and their system matches tank combos pretty well. This is something that the kiddie developers of Tanki would not even begin to understand how to code properly! Also, fro the past 2 hours I have been trying to complete a mission to get points in 5 Assault battle and I get the error message "you have removed from the battle due to inactivity" while I never got in to the battle because it never gets me in! And before some ignorant tells me I have a slow connection, know that I NEVER had ANY trouble entering a battle in WOT using the exact same connection! (150 Mbs down/20 up)

Yeah, I had the same mission in this account. I play with Fire/Titan, Rico/Titan mostly and it took me almost 2 months to get rid of this stupid weekly mission. Yay! I got 1 container that gave me 100 mines (like the 15,000 I have are not enough!) I just play the game to relax and I do not give a rat about the missions anymore, I made it to the rank of legend without having to spent ANY real money and dealing with the bad programs that the Tanki "developers" create. What do you expect from someone who thinks that, after waiting over a minute, dumping you to a random map in a 8 vs 5 battle while outranked by at least 6 ranks, is Matchmaking? Of course, now Viking4s will tell us not to use "inappropriate language", but will refrain from addressing the real issues! But hey, luckily there are many suckers born everyday that will keep paying for crap! It amuses me that while they cannot get this game straight, they now sell a Mobil version and yet some 5,000 fools bought it!

Well, if you think it does not suck, and you are OK being dumped in the same map over and over and with a totally unbalanced teams and waiting over 1 min to enter a battle that has 5 min left and the other team is up by 5 flags, then it is fine. But do not call it Matchmaking because certainly it is not. It is hodge-podge of bad code and it is getting worse even getting in to a battle because "you have been removed for inactivity" while you are waiting to get into the battle! Oh and if you have to change equipment during the battle, forget about it. By the time you enter the garage your team is shorthanded and you already lost the battle. And if you like getting killed by 1 shot from someone 3-4 ranks above you with better equipment, than it is OK. All I have to say, is good thing I have not invested any real money on this. I just pity those who have, but then again as we say in the US "there is one born everyday" and they majority wind up becoming Tanki buyers!

I am complaining because there is a great unbalance in everything since they went to MM. Yeah you get tired hearing of the "good old days" but so did the 30,000 or so players that left the game because it is gotten worse not better. I understand the need to change but this is no better. Read the complaints about players been dumped in battles with 3 or 4 higher ranks above them and they cannot even compete their missions because quite e few players are dropping out. Or how about the "you have been remove from battle for inactivity" and you have not even entered a battle! Just a bar forever loading and nothing more. Oh yeah, I know "clear cache, reboot, do this do that" and nothing works. Because we all know it is our slow internet of 300Mbps Up and down and and out pc with quad processors 16gb RAM and a discrete NVIDIA Gforce graphics card and not the proven over time incompetence of Tanki programmers! Oh and forget about changing equipment during battle because it takes so long to enter the garage that the battle is over since they shortened the time to 10 min and I do not know anyone who enters a battle with more than 7 min left! Ah, the good old days, where you could chose your map and your opponents and the better rewards and getting in the garage easier and the ability to create battles without having a pro pass or premium account and so on. But since you seem to consider mediocrity a 'change for the better" then it is fine by me. But stop telling us what to do and "not to open containers". By the way the most expensive item in the supplies are batteries but I seem to get plenty of those even they cost twice as much than RK and I do not even use any drones!

I do not know either. It is very rare that I would get Repair kits in containers. As a matter of fact I have seen a pattern where 99% of the time 1 out of 2 containers will have either Mines or Speedboost. Lately, I have noticed that on my other accounts too.

Hahaa I missed the point? I had quite a few thousands of supplies BEFORE containers were introduced by Tanki! You sound like the idiots who designed this atrocity they call matchmaking! "if you do not want them do not open the containers" Haahhaaaa! That is an idiotic statement. What is the incentive then to play the game and complete the missions if not for the rewards? If the rewards are worthless, then of course we will complain. And why should repair kits be rare? It is just another supply and all supplies should have an equal chance. It is not enough that, even in the weekly containers, you get only a 3rd of the repairs as compared to the other supplies, it is disheartening to work hard to complete missions only to get 2 containers that give you 99% of the time useless stuff. As a matter of fact I just opened up 2 containers that had 125 mines and 1 paint that I will never use. You are a newbie here, but once upon a time there were over 60,000 players daily and over 75,000 during holidays and we used to rank up faster and earn more stuff that we could use and only buyers spent crystals on useless paints and XT skins. I do not need either one to enjoy the game.

Here is why I do not need them Speed boost: 16,002 Mines: 11,202 DD: 9,102 DA 8,589 Repair: 37 As you can see I have enough speed and mines to last a lifetime! Repair on the other hand, not so much. Why is that? Because every other container I open up is either mines or speedboost or a usless paint (that has ZERO value for me) that's it. Believe me I use speedboost quite a bit as my tank is a Titan and I also lay mines every chance I get and still I cannot diminish my supply of them because the containers are so unbalanced. Like I said, 1 out of 2 containers from my daily missions have either mines or speedboost. Never mind the Daily missions "get 1 flag for 20 speed boost and 15 mines" Totally useless.

Obviously there is something wrong with your hearing or at least with your comprehension. We are complaining about the fact that 99% of the time when you open a container, you will get either mines or speedboost. or a useless paint that I have no desire to use. You rarely get any repairs or DD. I do not need any XT skins. Yeah bust your butt to complete 3 daily missions only to get 2 containers that give you 125 mines and 125 speedboost over and over. So, I have over 12,000 mines and speedboost that I cannot use because of the long cool off periods and the fact that you cannot turn on more than 1 supply at a time. So, give the choice between turn on speed boost of DD, DD wins 99% of the time. Consequently the speed boost and the mines go mostly unused. Oh and I have 10 different paints that I have never used because they are uglier than my dog. Oh yeah I am sure you need more speed boost and more mines because you do not have enough! I think not!

Ah, do not expect any explanation from Tanki. I have been asking the same question since the implementation of what Hazel Rah, the "lead game designer, calls matchmaking. I call it mis-matchmaking for that reason: the teams are not balanced as far as number of players or ranks. In my captain account I was put up against a team that had major generals! Now that is 6 or 7 ranks above mine! Of course, I was getting killed by one shot from those ranks and they were not even drugging! Apparently, someone at Tanki thinks that I should enjoy playing those kind of battles. Also, it is very strange that I wait sometimes over 1 min to get in to a battle that has only 4 or 5 min of playing time left! Now let's see an explanation on that! And of course forget about changing equipment during a battle, it take over 50 sec to get into the garage and by the time you get back in the battle, the battle is almost over because you leave your team short handed! But then again what do I know? I am not as smart as the "lead designer".

I am bottom tier at WoT and I am doing just fine playing the battles that I play with the bottom tier I have. At least, I am not getting killed by players many tiers above me like I do in Tanki. I have a Captain account that was MisMatched against: 1 First Lt, 1 Lt Colonel, 1 Colonel, 2 Brigadiers, 1 Major General 1 Lt General! So If I counted correctly I was pitted against players that were up to 6 ranks higher than me and the teams were 7 vs 8! Something like this will never happen in a true Matchmaking system and it does not happen in WoT. Also, in WoT the battle does not start until both teams are complete. In Tanki, not only I have to wait sometimes over 1 min but also I always enter the battle at the 6 or 7 min mark. Why is that? Let;s face it, Tanki's flaws are there because of INCOMPETENCY and BY DESIGN. (like taking away features that you had before and then making you BUY it as an alteration!) That's why they have lost quite a few player's. There were times in the past where in holiday events like Halloween, Christmas, Tanker's Days etc, there were over 70,000 players on the servers at the same time. And the best part of it..... NO LAG! Let that sink a bit and then tell me why now they barely have 30,000 (less than Half). I only play the game to blow off some steam an pass the time, and I couldn't care less about containers and such. I do not even make any attempts to catch any Gold Boxes. So, after all this Tanki used to be entertaining and fun to play (because I could choose the map and the battles I would play) and now it is not.

Ahahaaaaa! Looking forward to another useless item in the containers! It is not enough that I get some useless paints that I never use or the countless Speed boost or mines that I have quite a few thousands of them! Now I will spend my time completing idiotic missions like Come 15 times in the top 3 of the winning team only to get 1 container that chance are will give you either a useless paint of some speed boost. And now it will give you a useless color shot for a turret that you do not have and probably don't have any desire to acquire! Nice going. Good thing I have not spent a penny on this game. I just play for the fun of it but it seems that they are taking that away too. Newsflash, if I wanted to spend money on a game certainly it would be on a game that works not on Tanki with its perennial problems (lag, etc) that no one seems interested or capable of fixing them.

Ahahhaaa, there must have been another "update" we do not know about because after the restart, I have to wait an average of 1m 30s only to get a green bar that goes across real fast and then before it reaches the end it stops and you wait another 2 min only to get a message the "you have been removed from battle due to inactivity!" Seriously? How can i be removed for inactivity when I never entered the battle in the first place? proves again, that if you give a bunch of monkeys some bananas and you let them pound on a keyboard, you have a better chance that they will develop something more useful than these so called "tanki developers!"

I really do not care whether they undo it or not. I have stopped playing and I just log on a few times a week just to see what creative ways they will find to destroy a once upon a time great game! Their loss and not mine since I play other tank games that do not have these kind of problems and they do not have monkeys pounding on a keyboard as programmers. As far as the Pro battles goes, if you cannot do missions they are not worth the trouble especially now that majority of battles in Pro battles are XP/BP and even those are diminishing.

Now either you are totally dumb or you have a severe lack of comprehension! This is what you wrote "with reasonably balanced teams" and this is what I wrote "it will make the game balanced." You are trying to play with semantics here! But I digress. If "The game is imbalanced because the game is imbalanced" then why not FIX the "imbalance" but instead put a monstrosity in place that takes away players choice of maps and who they will be playing against? Why do you you think the majority of the players are so upset? Again no one is expecting any MAGIC out of MM. i stated that clearly and you are so dumb that your are telling me that I expect magic! No I do not expect magic: I expect to have a choice in which map i will complete my missions. I expect to have a choice against whom I want to play. I expect not to keep getting "an error has occurred". I expect tho play a game not hampered by lag. I expect to have the same equipment that I purchased until the end of days. I expect Not to waste 10 minutes trying to get into a game only to be dumped in a battle that is about to end! Is it too much to expect? I guess what you call "magic" the rest of us called reasonable expectation! By the way, I also expect when I buy a container not to have a useless paint like the Poland flag I got yesterday! So try as you might to defend this atrocity, you are in the minority and of course totally wrong.

This is were you are totally wrong! No one expects "magic" out of the MM system! It was put in place with the premise that "it will make the game balanced." Now what "balanced" means to TO is totally different to what it means to players. Balanced does not mean to take away choice of maps, to have to wait 2-3 minutes only to get dumped in a battle that it is almost at the end because there is is no "balance" in the ranks nor in the amount of players. Balance does not mean, not to know on which map you will be dump and not to be able to play on the same map 2 or more consecutive games. "MM cannot make players into existence" Seriously? then if players do not exist how come we have to wait 2-3 min to get into a battle? For your information, the main dissatisfaction with TO, at the present time, IS the MM system. Simply put: IT DOES NOT WORK! By the way, here is why most players do not like this system. I just logged on for today's mission: Earn 1000 XP in battles for 6 repair kits and 22 DA. Clicked of CTF. AVg wait time 59s waited for 2min 1 sec before i hit EXIT. Clicked on CTF again, AVG wait time 59s, waited for 2 min 20 before I clicked EXIT. So, after 4.5 min of wait, I am still not in any battle! Under the old system under a few seconds I would have found a battle (even on a map that I do not like) and I would have been half way done with my mission! Now I would be lucky if I can finish this mission in 2 days! This system sucks no matter how you try to sugar-coated. It is an utter failure. So 3rd attempt and guess what! Avg wait time 50s waiting for 3m 40s! and no dice! Still I am not in as I type this! Now 4m 10sec! I just give up with this crap!

So, what makes you think that the Tanki developers are capable of fixing this? If they could, they would have saw that during the testing phase and they would have fixed it. We have the same issue during the live test they did last October/November and this unbalanced rank issue was a huge portion of the complaints. Why wasn't it fixed now? makes on go hhmmmmmmm!

Sure they are plenty of dumb asses there willing to part with their money! And yes as customers, especially the paying ones, have every right to tell them when they screw up. This is the only game where what you buy is not worth the same after the next upgrade. But yet they always will be those fools who do not mind and do not speak up. TI know for a fact that many old timer players here have either left or diminished their playing time and it is only new players and buyers that are left. You want to see a game were the developers listen to their customers? Go to WoT and see. One thing is for sure: the tank that i got there 3 years ago has still the same power and no modules have changed no matter how many upgrades have gone through. And by the way, their MM system is far superior than this atrocity. There are always the same amount of players on both teams and there are never more than 2 ranks difference. Something that Tanki developers not only cannot develop, but they cannot even dream it up! By the way, I have been playing WoT for quite a few years and I never had any lag or the nebulous "an error has occurred" or have waited 2 min only to be dumped in a battle that is so unbalanced that end s within 2 min!

Your are joking, right? The Pro battles is a non-option as long as the missions cannot be completed in them. Allow missions to be completed in Pro battles and see how many players would choose to play in MM mode! probably no one. I would for one sacrifice some crystals to buy the pro pass if the missions were allowed. By the way TO maybe wants the game to be that way; but the bigger question is Do the players want it to be that way? By the amount of complaints and the significant drop in long term players, I'd dare say NO!

Oh yeah! That is a solution! What a joke! If the system cannot give me stats and I have to calculate them myself, then it is a deficient system. But you knew that, didn't you? Why do I have to do all this guess work? why can't Tanki give me the stats?

They used to be and now they are not. So to clear up the confusion can someone who is with Tanki explain to us: 1. How is the score calculated (the battle points) 2. How is XP calculated and how do we keep track of it for EACH battle without having to write down what's on the Green Bar before we enter a battle 3. What is the the impact of the D/L in Crystal awards per battle. 4. Why there was no notification that all the protection was removed once the 3 protection modules were converted to single modules and that we had to go in the garage and add them BEFORE you go into battle?

Obviously, your comment here indicates that you have neither developed a complex program nor you have managed a business that depends on the internet! I can't imagine an Airline reservation system, or a healthcare system having this kind of issues and the frequency it happens in Tanki! How long do you thing they will stay in business if they told their customers "sorry you have an old computer and we cannot process your request"! It is astonishing the amount of bugs in the Tanki program! You cannot deny the fact that every single time that even when the smaller change is made, the program contains multiple bugs. From the notorious lag to the blank screens to the nebulous "an error has occurred". Yet, no one wants to admit that this MM system has been an utter failure since the majority of the players do not want it, for various reasons, among of which one is the bugs that seem to plague Tanki even more now than before. Just do an experiment and bring back the regular battles in the battle and leave the MM button there. Let's see how many players will chose the MM. But I know something like this will not happen and since I do not have the time to wait 1-2 min between battles that last maybe 3 min at the most, I have reduced my playing time significant. Also, for your information, I do have a fast computer, with dual Xeon processors, 16 GB RAM, an NVIDIA video card, with a 250 Mbps very stable Internet connection and I am hardwired to a router with a Gbit connection and I still have all the problems that many experience here. So, what is the common denominator here? You go figure and let us know. You can try to justify Tanki's shortcomings as much as you want but you are in the minority.

You see, the point I am trying make is that Tanki implemented something that they knew it had some serious shortcomings. All the points I made, were brought up in last year's trial run of the MM system (October/November was it?). Since they implemented the MM system and they did not take into account the previous issues that the players brought up, it tells me that, while you may pass up the issues to the developers, either the developers ignore them or they do not know how to handle them. Having managed IT departments for many years in organizations much larger than Tanki, I can tell you that we deployed a system that was not fully "user compliant" only once. After that we learned our lesson and we never forced anything down to the users unless if was a critical security issue that had to be addressed or else the organization's survival was at stake. In this case, sorry to say, this was not thoroughly though out, the user complaints after the live trial were not addressed and the game got much worse. Again I do not understand why the Battle List was taken away while it was a known fact that the MM system had all these shortcomings. The easy solution will be to bring back the normal battles in the Battle list, not just the pro battles, and let the users choose to click the MM buttons while the developers address the MM shortcomings without pressure. Chances are that very few players would use the MM buttons and the complaints will be minimized.

Oh, yes! That "removed form battle for inactivity" has been around for a long time! I was getting that error message very frequently even before MM. I also get more frequently no this nebulous "an error has occurred" and of course I get kicked out of the battle! and guess what? by the time I rejoin, my team is behind the score and the battle is almost finished. By the way, no one at Tanki pays attention to what's happening and if they do, most of the time, they have no idea how to fix it. The recent "upgrades" prove that since they had to have a 5 hour unplanned downtime when they changed the "new" XT skins. Hahaaaa! this has got to be the understatement of the year! Nice effort to be Politically Correct! In plain language, the MM system needs to be dumped in the garbage. It reminds me the old Soviet Communist system: the state knows best what it is good for its citizens and the citizens shut up and fall in line with whatever decision is made by the rulers of their destiny.

"but I can imagine that if you get sent to Brest often, it becomes rather frustrating" gee now if you can imagine that, why can't the person who designed this MM system imagine it? The major frustrations with this atrocity are: 1. You cannot choose the map you want to play 2. You cannot choose who to play against. Someone at Tanki thinks that lower ranks like to get destroyed by legends with fully upgraged equipment 3. Not only the battle time is short now, by the time you wait 2-3 min to enter a battle, there is only little time left and if there is time, most of the time the flag count is so unbalanced that the battle ends shortly after you join. 4. It is a rare occasion if the teams have equal amount of players! Since the inception of this atrocity, I have been in very few battles where the teams are balanced. Wasn't "balance" one of the major reasons for shoving this down out throats? So, where is the balance? 5. Since you do not know in which map you will be dumped, you have no idea what combo to use. Consequently, you wind up blowing yourself up in order to get the right combo for the map and by then you are already behind in the score and your D/L is bad. Also, now, if I understand correctly, self destruct costs more points. Nice, huh? Again, these are just some of the problems with this MM system. It proves again that whoever designed this system, did not think it out properly and did not even test it properly. perhaps some day, Tanki will understand the reasons for the frustration but then again I do not think the decision makers are capable of understanding the basic reasons for the complaints let alone show some creative thinking.