The exact same. The average damage for Thunder and Striker M4 are the exact same, which leads to, given the same radius (10 meters) and the same weak splash damage (10%), comparable splash.

First off, calling someone a "liar" isn't an insult. Secondly, how do you know he's never played on the old map? It might be a bit unbalanced, but the size and variety of it makes up for it in my opinion. You also aren't forced to play on that map, either.

Those turrets do require skill and strategy at the high ranks. Just because a turret requires the most skill doesn't mean that it fits into the gameplay with the rest. A lot of skill with it? As soon as any fool sees that laser on him/her, they will move away.

No it isn't. It's always 50% of that random, initial value between 740 and 1020 that you would get at point-blank range.

:ph34r: It was fun for a while but I didn't want people to think I was the biggest noob here so I ranked back. ;) :)

I like it.

It doesn't increase the overall range.

Please: (Read the beginning CAREFULLY) http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=342767 Number 1 is in red for you. :) It's almost impossible to actually achieve maximum damage within the maximum damage range, since the damage is calculated on a random bell curve from the minimum to maximum damage. This bandwidth congruently decreases from the range of max damage until the range of minimum damage, at which point the damage values are multiplied by the weak damage.

But makes it great on Light hulls. It's a weaker and faster Thunder without the splash, and very good when you are mobile. :) Edit: Who made me a Recruit!!!???

I do agree that Firebird is such a useless weapon right now. Since there's no freeze effect, at high ranks it's hard to keep the flames on the enemy, as you get knocked around with a light hull. The burn, when it was effective, compensated for that. Now it's pretty much "get the alteration unless you are a medium hull that only likes suicidal Poly Cps, etc."

Well, Thunder isn't exactly known for it's DPS :lol:

12 -_- Anyway how was that M2 thunder two-shotting your M1 Hunter? And how did M0 thunder make your d/l go up as opposed to m2 freeze?

It's more like Thunder.

Depends on the rate of recharge.

Just create a new account. If you use M0 at Major it's a kind of sabotage.

Only as an option for Standard battles..good idea! :)

M4s cost almost a million crystals each, so obviously yeah. But even 20 MUs gives a much better advantage instead of alterations that don't even increase the power..

Oh, I'm not complaining. Just explaining why I won't be participating. Good luck to all! :)

2nd

But think: Combined price: 150-200k crystals? With that amount, you could have previously MU'd it quite a bit.

It's quite underpowered and needs a buff. The reason? In red.

By what standard?

But if you think of it, they could've just not given the sale at all. You would still have spent 100k, just have felt a little better.

How much time? 36 hours a day? :ph34r: In a supplies-off Polygon CP it's fine...Anyway I am do not have that much time to spend in-game, so good luck to all! :)

I wonder if they will explain why the illustration for Firebird's alteration was off, and why they changed it last-minute.