AHHHH the voice/post of reason. We both no the FLYING CHEAT is a game changer, and your right he must be playing recruit level hoppers because the ones i come against are in and gone, and are very hard to track. The only gun that has a chance is maybe a decent rail player, especially if the FLYING CHEAT is maxed out MK7.

Glad you understood it?

Emphasis on the word RECENTLY, as it has been OP for months. And it has not been nerfed, the mechanics of how it works has been changed, no direct nerf to it's OP overdrive has taken place, which would have been very easy to do. So here's one for you to mull over, THE FLYING CHEAT, everyone knows it is way OP, where is the balance considering this hull and it's overdrive. How many months will it remain OP before the devs think of a way to lessen it's impact for the usual cash injection from the buyers. Tell you what mod, instead of saying the devs are always looking to balance the game out for the benefit of the players whenever they can, how about say how things are in the real world of TO. Unbalanced and largely in favour of the P2W brigade should be your unbiased answer.

I take it you don't like druggers because you have none yourself. You sound like riddler, only he is always quoting stuff for legends AND ONLY LEGENDS.

Novel idea, splitting the drone upgrades between ranks. Of course you would have to do something similar for every drone to balance it out, oh wait, i forgot, the devs don't do balance, just OP cash incentives like HORNET and THE FLYING CHEAT (overdrives), silly me forgetting something like that. The devs will never forget game balance, for them it has never existed so forgetting isn't even an option.

No different than hornet remaining OP for months, no different than the flying cheat dominating battles with it's OP overdrive, did the devs think about this, we all no the answer to that, of course they thought about it, and thought what a great cash maker. OP combos, hulls etc or now the norm when the devs bring in new changes, so who cares if it would make it powerful, more cash for the devs so i reckon it might just be a thing in the coming months. Personally i hope it does.

If you refresh it puts you in same battle every time. I've seen loads of these fools do it when i'm about to kill them, yarik what's his face does it all the time, proper lemon.

Your right on a lot of points and so wrong on others. I'm not gonna go through these points as i have done so on many many occasions, and it becomes a chore to be honest. My main gripe are the overdrives, in particular hornets and the flying cheat. Hornet was the most OP hull out there with activated overdrive for a very long time, and the devs left it that way because of the P2W players snapping them up and filling the coffers of TO. Now eventually they have changed how hornets overdrive works, but instead of just nerfing it like they should have, they introduce more updates where in order to feel any benefit you have to do what? ah yes, spend some cash. The devs are devious and malicious in how they deal with their player base, and your assumption that every player of adult age should be able to spend at least some cash to enhance their game is very presumtuous of you. I to have a lower account and could max it out no probs to full MK5 everything if i choose to, but i won't, it's called principals. The devs never ever do anything unless it's to their advantage, meaning generating more cash regardless of how many players that will fall by the wayside because their finances will just not allow them to match the buyers. TO is a great game which i have for the most part enjoyed since 2013, now there are just to many gimmicks, and for the majority, you need cash to benefit from them. One last point, it's human nature to be competitive, the devs no this only to well, and act accordingly to alleviate you from your cash. These are the facts as i see them, and i see the devs devious overtones every time there is a new update.

7 hours ago, yellowghetto said: Also, I wish I knew how Efficiency is calculated. Mine keeps going down for some reason and about to drop below 90000. Devs won't tell you how it's done exactly, but i no for a fact the more cry you earn compared to xp does help your efficiency. That's how the cheat yarik and the only gizmo in the top 100 closing have such good ratings. Their cry to ratio is massive, so much so yarik for deff is breaking the rules somehow, he once earned over 200,000 cry for no xp gained, i screened it but the devs took it down, for what reason i never ever found out. The double funds xp cry etc will do your rating no good whatsoever, which is why it will continue to fall the more you play. I pulled out all the stops about a year back to get into the top 100, just to see if i could manage it. This was before the ridiculous X ZILLION xp boost so i had a easier time of it. It was still a grind to achieve it but i did, and i made top 50. This is why i can't stand players like the aforementioned two, i grind it out and play smart, these clowns break the rules (and they are) and are above me, an honest player doing it the right way, getting out done by these cheating morons. I no ratings have no bearing on how good you are in battle, but i set out to achieve top 100 with this particular account when it was WO3. I have never done it again as it is a real grind, and i wanted to see if i could manage it, was pleased when i did achieve it, and relieved when it was finally over. GOOD LUCK on getting your ratings back on track.

I believe only 2 should be able to do it, so yeah maybe hunter, so we either exclude wasp or titan, take your pick.

Even if you are APd titans dome should still protect you. It's meant to be a protective dome, but with every update titan is either directly or indirectly affected. I think only 2 of the current overdrives should be able to affect titans dome, here is what i mean. 1. Wasp can already do it , if it activates after the dome is deployed, so both players have to weigh options up as to who can hold their nerve the longest. 2. i don't mind that another titan from enemy team can deactivate your shield, so along with wasp, these should be the only 2 overdrives that can DIRECTLY shut titans dome down. 3. All other. . .overdrive/turret. . . .combos should still be able to do damage, but at a reasonably reduced nerf. 4. The nerf should be 75% while titans dome is active, but only for the titan user itself, all other players who might be under the dome at the time should only get a 25% reduction of the damage from enemy. 5. It should also have that 75% against AP just incase you were wondering about that. Titan is very slow and cumbersome, as you would expect from a heavy hull, but atm having all these extra HP and a supposedly protective dome do it no favours, not with all the added updates that have been brought out, especially in the last year alone. I believe this is a very reasonable idea/counter to the vast array of turrets, hulls, drones, etc that atm can counter titans dome with relative ease and make it next to useless in battles, especially at the higher more cutting edged ranks of legend battles. Even at the lower ranks titan as i have observed is nowhere near as effective as a heavy hull should be. I genuinely believe this is a good idea and for once should MERIT some thought and feedback from the devs. I have been most considerate and polite, so just for that the devs should give this idea the once over. Come on guys give this the most likes in TO history, and maybe it will get forwarded to the devs for consideration.

I really think you are missing the point of the wolf, i'm not sure if it is deliberate are if it is really lost on you.

Don't care 2 jots about hornet being useless against jug...tuff luck i say, do care hunter is no longer effective though.

ERM nope.

I am now putting you in the TOTALLY SENSIBLE PLAYERS LIST. (we are few in numbers) but loyal to the anti corruption cause which battles against greed and neglect. you are amongst the very few of us that actually get what the GREEN EYED MONSTER (the devs) is trying to achieve. Head honcho GOMEZ (hazel) along with his sidekick UNCLE FESTER (marcus) constantly spew out garbage about BALANCE, listening to player feedback, then come out with another way to make even more cash from their P2W minions, by gifting said MINIONS with more OP gear to fill their garage with. HORNET, FLYING CHEAT, ASTRONOMICAL SHOP PRICES, THE EVER GROWING LIST OF SCAMBOXES, only the P2W brigade and the little kiddies think all of these new updates are AWESOME. Players with Cash are the IQ equivalent of a deceased goldfish are the only ones who think the devs walk on water. Throw in a few shot effects and some new skins and all is well in TO. <<<<<------- See above statement about deceased goldfish for the type of player that like these, and insist the devs devote more time to them, and don't bother about balancing the game out because HORNET and THE FLYING CHEAT are just fine the way they are.

Pure class, glad i did not rewrite this update, i would have been instantly banned for a zillion years. I enjoyed the read, you were far too kind to them.?

If you were right in your assumptions of the new updates i would say TUFF LUCK. But you are so wrong, i really do not no where to begin to explain what the devs have just done. Tell you what, read the update section AGAIN, very carefully, then have a lie down and a think about what you have just read. If your still unsure of how to interpret it, ask MARCUS to explain it to you, should only take about a thousand years for him to reply, which is rather quick in tanki terms.

Sensible means actually listening to players and balancing the game out. Balancing the game out does not fill their coffers with players cash. Ergo, sensible gets thrown over the nearest cliff, the one with the biggest drop, you no, the one with no bottom, that goes in a straight line right through the entire planet and into space.

I will try, when a enemy hornet activates it's overdrive only the tanks within its view on the opposite team can be affected by the new ap alt, all other tanks do not get affected. This is how i interpret what he said. I could be wrong, congo are diesel are wolf could probs tell you for certain. i have re read it, it could also mean that it gives this ability to all team mates , 2 possibilities, not sure if any are correct, but thats my take on it.

I hope it's double that.

If your a hornet player like you say ........TA TA .

Another, rip off, cash grab, call it what you want, HORNETS overdrive has not been nerfed directly. The devs capacity for suprasing basic greed is only matched by their complete disregard towards their players, who have been asking for months to balance the game out, namely to nerf hornets overdrive so it does not spawn kill, and cannot 1 shot hulls whenever it's overly long overdrive is activated. As always they just add some new updates to lighten the bank account of there P2W players, and then say they have considered all the feedback, and then implement something totally different to what the players were asking for. And of course we still have the FLYING CHEAT, the 1 hull that outdoes even hornet in it's ability to bypass all enemy tanks, in it's complete domination to attack a base, get the flag, and cap before you can say.....THERE GOES THE OP FLYING CHEAT. I for one will not be helping the devs fill the coffers of the BANK OF TO PLC by buying there AP- immunity nonsense.

How in all of creation have the devs listened to their players, please explain EXACTLY how they have done this.

The devs are checking?????? How come HORNET is still OP How come they added another OP hull Yeah deff checking, to see how many players buy their OP updates I seriously give up explaining what tips the balance by a massive margin. To be honest, it doesn't affect me as much as others, that's only because my garage throughout all my accounts i play on are strong. Still, having legal cheats maraude through battles with relative ease the way HORNET and THE FLYING CHEAT do is totally unfair, especially on those players that have no way of combating such OP hulls. I have strong accounts, but at times i am left in the wake of these OP legal cheats, especially this flying cheat which is nigh on impossible to defend against at the higher ranks.

How to get the best out of crisis drone. I could not have upgraded it this fast are my protections if i also had to concentrate on other turrets/hulls. GG, not a flying cheat to contend with, just a OP hornet/rico which killed me, and hammer, Both deaths could have been avoided but i got over zealous, my mistake.