This is the real reason why some helpers are annoyed isn't it. It's not because of the further imbalance that the premium paint will introduce rather the fact others can be just as special as them just by getting out their credit card and some of you want to remain special. It was the same when I suggested players got a small reward for successful video violation reports. Heaven forbid players get something too. Can't have that now can we.

An m4 rico vs a PA m4 viking would require one less shot to destroy it. (on average) But we shouldn't be looking at this PA paint from the point of view of any one single turret. It is the overall effect of this paint that will make it op. If I wear Clay then there are 8 turrets out there that inflict 100% of their damage against me. If I wear PA paint, All 11 turrets would be reduced to inflicting 85% of their damage against me. PA players won't be short of double armour so watch out. We're too fickle here. We should not be appeased by this measly 5% change. We should be demanding PA Paint removal. PA accounts would be 100% approved across the communities if they did not offer any power advantage. There are plenty of ways to a make a player stand out and boost revenue at the same time. This is just another example of TO shortsightedness that will only hasten the downfall of flashTO, which is probably the intention all along if you ask the most cynical among us.

I really hope that TO will all learn from this debacle. Players are not here so you can ride roughshod over us anytime you like simply because you reserve the right to. You really need to start asking us our opinions on big changes like this first. Don't come out and announce this is what we're doing, rather, come out and say this is what we're thinking of doing and we want your input on it... Please help us shape it. TO devs and volunteers should be professional enough not to retaliate in sarcastic and condescending ways and they should refrain from this at all times. There are reasons you guys are where you are. Instead, try thanking us a bit more for input and there is nothing wrong with a bit of encouragement even when our suggestions are far off the mark. This way you achieve respect and the mood around here would be a better one.

I think they're talking out of necessity and desperation myself and I feel that is the only reason why. I think you give them too much credit. If they're listening its not because they're trying its more because the ship is listing. They have too much past form for me to think otherwise. I don't say this just to have a cheap shot at them, it's how I really feel and what I truly think. Now it's up to them how they take this. They can try to change my opinion of them or just keep doing the same old same old!

Even though I can afford it, I won't be buying a Premium account or anything else for that matter. You know why? I don't know what I can take with me.Let's say I really want that new kit, why should I buy it when there is absolutely no guarantee my investment won't be a complete and utter waste the moment Unity is here. TO really need to address this because this is the #1 reason why you're finding it so hard lately that you have to resort to the hated Premium Accounts idea. I know you don't want to get into it, but I think if you don't, you will no doubt regret it later on. Tell us what your intentions are. If you're keeping it a secret then I feel you're probably intending to spit in the faces of those players who got you where you are today. I didn't have to buy into this game but I did because I believed in it. That belief has faded somewhat and resentment and frustration is rapidly taking its place. It's true and you need to hear this and act on it.

But I thought we were told that "suggesting things" is pointless. Hazel said this in the I&S section and has since been backed up by a mod. You see how this sounds right? Now we are asked for our opinions but are you truly asking or are you just pretending to ask us and don't really care. I don't know anymore. I think TO will do what TO wants to do and any input from us is usually met with ridicule and condescension. That's my experience anyway. Supporting evidence: "Most suggestions around here simply can not be applied to the future game due to difference in the mechanics. Which makes this entire forum section a bit pointless at the moment, from my personal point of view" "You can still post your ideas here and discuss them, but keep in mind that no matter how good or simple your idea is, it may only be added to the game in a few years or so. If an idea from this section does end up in the game in a few months or even weeks after it was posted, then it simply means that the player guessed what the developers were planning, and suggested something that would have been added anyway." Tanki is in the state its in now because of their failure to properly address the issue of mults and sabotage. It also started to slide when it introduced vulcan and hammer, without adequately ensuring the previous paint protection balance was preserved. There are 11 ways to die now but our some of our top paints like clay might as well be holiday paint against 8 turrets. TO is spiraling out of control and is demanding more money from us with no guarantees on our investments. In short, what are we taking with us to Unity? There is no point in buying into a dying game if we have to start again is there. You ask for co-operation then start the ball rolling. Tell us what we can take with us and give us some kind of guarantee because this is the only way I can see of saving this project.

Don't act so surprised. Premium Accounts will radically alter this game and it will give a premium account buyer a massive advantage at low/mid ranks. A team of premium account druggers at any level will only have to show up to win unless they're playing another team of premium account druggers. Everything else in the vlog comes secondary to such a big change and forgive us all if we're not focused enough on Unity's cosmetics. Premium accounts should quite rightly be opposed by all who love this game. It was a ridiculous idea that essentially makes this game Pay2Win because you cannot buy these accounts with crystals. That's the crux of the matter and if you can't see that then Wow to you too!!! But you do see it don't you? Edit: Maybe I read your post wrong at first and I'm guessing now it was supposed to be that way.

I'm certain I won't be buying a Premium Account because while 20% against all turrets is extremely good for lower ranks it would only be a marginal advantage given for rank. At lower ranks, this account would dominate any battle and I feel those without would be left feeling demoralised and frustrated before quitting entirely. Maybe this should have been scaled. eg, 5% for the first 5 ranks, 10% to Level 15, 20% after that. 20% against mines however is massive. I hope you reconsider this and halve its protection at least. More reasons now to play Pro battles where mines cannot be used and it's fair to say that being part of a clan or team of friends has just become more important. I do not like this update.

Is there the slightest chance that they would sabotage Flash Tanki for some reason? If I owned TO Flash and wanted to minimise the amount of game currency I would have to expend when transferring the value of current players garages to the Unity version, I would first devise a cunning plan to keep that minimal for reasons that should be obvious. I'd probably define 'current players' as any player that has spent on average 10 hours a week playing the game over the last 6 months. Any players that don't meet this criteria will lose everything. With that goal in mind, which by no coincidence will be made public as late as possible, I would then deliberately set out to try and get players to reduce their game time or leave the game entirely by any means possible. I'm not saying this is how it's going to be, merely stating a fictional business plan if an evil version of me owned this game. Nothing is absurd in the world of business when large sums of money are involved. Nothing!

Insurrection - I like it!

So there is a deliberate strategy to wind down flash then? Spit guards ready.

Just play intelligently and players above you will appreciate it. Don't waste time in the garage. If you're getting killed a lot then you're wasting time and being a burden. Play to your strengths.

I think battles like this are few and far between. I believe the majority of games are now stacked in favour of those who use mults. I've been on for a couple of hours tonight and am yet to find a fair game. I'm now gonna play my @EscapeVelocity account for the rest of the evening because I'm bored of asking the opposite team to remove their mults.

Yes. I never said the reason he resigned is because he had this to say. You know what I said. You've not understood it.

But it's a shame someone has to resign in order to say it, (cumulatively). Well constructed negative feedback shouldn't be a taboo. It should be welcomed, acknowledged and addressed at all times by someone of higher standing in the game. The fact that none of these things happen in the forum just serves to reinforce TO's uncaring and disinterested persona.

Good luck and TO are losing one of the best. I have not really played much on my main account since they messed with camera speeds which is a while back now. I can't afford to buy into this game now that I have to purchase vomit bags off eBay. I have found a little fun taking an alternative account to wo5 but i'm at a stage there now where I either have to buy to compete or quit that alt and quitting is probably for the best. I agree with you on all your points. Fun for me stands around 10 to 20% of the time while anger and hostility accounts for the rest. This from me, someone who has almost everything m4 and a most of the top paints mu'd to the max. The game has constantly been chopped and changed for no good reason and I'm rapidly losing interest in it myself. If it wasn't for my friends here, I'd have left ages ago. Other game sites have upped there email rate recently. Maybe they sense some kind of mass tanki exodus and want to capture entice us in. Anyway, good luck at university. Best, AZ

I get this feeling too.

I agree with everything you said but I believe, given their history and past form, tanki does not really care about you as an individual supporter of this project. Speaking up and asking for a bit of respect just labels you as a trouble-maker. You're also inviting negative and condescending comments from players who have not spent a penny on this game. You'll never get a real thank you or acknowledgement for your loyalty. What they should do is to create vip avatars for loyal players like yourself in order to separate you from others here in the forum who have not been so committed to the game.

Meanwhile, at Tanki HQ...

Can we swap Speed Boosts for a picture of riding a unicorn instead?

Now the party is over, the mults and saboteurs, which decreased slightly under generous missions, will be back in force to once again spoil your day. I'm already witnessing a noticeable increase in just one day! I'm not saying we reinstate the generous rewards, just saying if tanki really cared about the long term, they would sort this cancer out once and for all.

This is true. There was no need to play battles anymore because rewards in missions were so great. And this is why I suggested a rename for the game 2 weeks ago.

We knew the rewards were too generous and we knew they would be reduced. Daily missions, the generous version, was just a sticking plaster and a quick fix to boost game numbers which were in crisis at only 50-60k peak server load per day before the release. Proof: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=273063&p=4822217 But for gameplay's sake, I'm glad tanki have reduced them although I don't know how they arrived at 50% - probably plucked from thin air. But it's becoming increasingly evident to me at least, that some players and some staff don't want to do what is best for the game in the long run, only themselves. Oh, and I bet the cost of changing missions hasn't reduced by 50% too - sneaky!

Maybe they should change it to "Repair" and not "Collect" - that way, if you are 100%, it does not count. Don't expect this solution to be acknowledged or implemented.

Rename required...