It's an 8-minute battle where you can't communicate with half your team. It's an arcade game. So yes - having equivalent power is important to game balance. Why do you think Isida has high DPS and low energy. BALANCE. You are only looking at this from perspective of someone with a full garage. Lower ranks have way fewer choices. So the player with Isida as most upgraded turret... "too bad you can't take on the multiple fires that exist in every battle"? And speaking of DM - an Isida would lose every time to fire with the alt. Poor game design. And I'm not comparing apples to oranges. That would be Isida vs Smoky. We are comparing two turrets that have very short range. Apples to apples.

Those 8000+ mines and the 500+ RK say otherwise. You camp and place mines. That's drugging.

I'd never use Ocelot with Isida equipped unless that turret was the most popular in the battle. Always equip the module vs turret you see most or causes you most issues. It's your choice to just use one module and make yourself weak compared to enemies. Equip all the modules you have - pretty simple since you only have three. You still did not address my note about long-range turrets having HUGE advantage over short-range if they could not equip shaft or Rail. Anyway, TO does not like to refund crystals, so not a chance this idea gets implemented.

I bought it. Certainly does increase your hit ratio. So if you like to use single-shots it is worth it. Don't use it in pro-battles as the targets are slower without SB - so the 4-missile salvo works more often.

Both seem to be Favs of Hazel's. Have you see the Mortar alteration in action? Absolutely brutal. Must be Devs method to get more players to invest in spider-modules.

So if I never use rail I can never defend against it? No thanks. How would short-range turrets ever survive? They would be destroyed whenever visible to those long-range turrets. Sorry - this idea won't fly. Why do you care about k/d? it has no effect whatsoever on game-play.

Since there is a DM mode (attack) and missions that require kills, you need to look at the micro view as well as the macro view. This is not a role-playing game. If someone chooses Isida as their first turret of next m-level, they have the expectation it will compete with other turrets. If Isida has no chance against firebird (both are knife-fighters) the system is broken. Before the alteration was introduced it was a pretty even battle, though many consider Firebird OP. After introduction of alt, Isida stands no chance against firebird. Alts are not supposed to improve a turret. They are supposed to change it's gameplay. Adding increased DPS AND longer attack time is a mistake. That would be like increasing Isida DPS & energy pool while lowering it's healing abilities. That will never happen. Why? because it is OP.

You can capture points easier than killing tanks - unless you are fighting weaker/noobs. In that case - you're likely on winning side. Even if you die before capping - it's the distance carried that counts. You get it 90% of the way there you score more (but don't get the cap). Spawnkilling? Well you are likely on the winning team, are you not? Adding top 2 or top 3 losing team in no way encourages teams to lose. Why would you want to lose? You still get more rewards for winning. But it will keep players in the battle. Else they will just exit and look for greener pastures when they have those missions. We know they leave - happens in many, many battles. How is players leaving the battle better?

Doesn't help in DM. And doesn't help when you are on a bad team. Every turret should have a chance against every other turret. Isida can not beat Firebird 1 vs 1 when Firebird uses the alt.

Yeah... next time one of my accounts gets that stupid finish top-3 x15 missions it's switching to Pro-battles.

Correct. No free supplies. That one for firefly pales compared to what some got. Atlas was... 150 each supply, or something like that.

:huh:

Not if the Viking is a magnum hiding behind a building. Imagine how fast the mines will build up if magnum has the Mortar alteration. Or a Firebird/Viking with Incendiary Mix. What would DPS be of that? :lol:

Just finished the top-3 x15 mission. What do I get as replacement? Score 10,000. So for a week that is ~ 1400 per day. Even at 250/battle that's 6 battles per day. Yessh.

Thought they upped the m3 stats ... which has same net effect...

You are going back a ways... I think you forgot the free supplies kit that used to come with kits. Plus... personal & sale discounts applied to kits if you were lucky on the timing.

It was unlocked 4 ranks ago, so you're a bit late. But it's still a decent turret and you have 6 ranks until m3's are unlocked. It's definitely better up close than Thunder. If you do buy it you may also want to consider the MFS alteration. I find the shots too slow as stock, and the range is not great. The MFA alt has no real downside ever since they increased # of shots Ricco can take.

How do you figure? OD is driven by time + battle-score. If Viking OD allows player to kill many enemies quickly, their OD will be refreshed sooner. And... Hunter needs to be near an enemy to activate it - Viking does not. With magnum, Viking does not even need LOS.

So let me get this straight... Incendiary mix gives firebird better DPS than Isida, an because of less energy consumption it can fire for longer. Better DPS More Total damage :o Are the Devs nuts? There is really no downside to taking Incendiary mix overall.

If so... good-night Irene... :ph34r:

Capping flags and CPs already nets you better score than killing. So you will have some going for flag-caps and some going for kills. Since not everyone can cap flags this works out for entire team. This trade-off is much better than having 1/2 the team desert because they know they won't complete missions.

How do you come to that conclusion? Just means 1) you may actually stay and finish a bad battle and 2) you will try hard in order to place high on your team - win or lose. Once a battle gets out of hand players just start leaving because there is almost no reason to stay.

Only three different threads on mobile? We need MOAR! :rolleyes:

and your username will be "KillTheNoobs" ? :ph34r:

One reason to stay (besides being a masochist) is to complete a daily mission like "finish # battles in (mode)". Which is why they should add "finish top-2 losing team" to that crazy top-3 x15 weekly mission. Might have a few more players finish even bad battles if they can gain another step on that mission.