"What's there to discuss? It's ruined the game!" Statements like this are unhelpful. If you are going to make a statement, back up why you think that. Lots of people like the overdrives so at the very least the statement is also untrue.

Doesnt isida have the highest damage? Wouldnt that make it a great DM turret? Win every 1v1 fight

This is good. Lets ppl fund the game while not gaining an advantage over others

Whether they have paid money or not doesnt help me know how they played. You only get 1 repair kit per spawn mostly and lots of ppl have m4s so that doesnt explain his domination. Im more looking for tactics

Im playing bc I love the game and want to get better at it. Also the battles are crazy intense. Using overdrives has to be so smart rather than just pressing shift to beat an enemy 1v1 like previously

Hornets overdrive is not weak...its probly my favorite. Im seeing a lot of thunder hornet players who might face a lot of protection but upon using overdrive will get great shots on ppl

Touche. Last night I saw a shaft wasp player wrecking everyone for four straight games. Not sure how but I want to figure out what Im doing wrong. I guess after a while you are just a machine

@wolverine: It raises the special things that everyone can do. Ive seen old vids of battles where most people werent using supplies. Maybe 1-2 people were and they just tore through the enemy. I saw one where a guy had like 50 kills and 1 death or something. Drugging vs not drugging is a bloodbath. Now everyone has supplies. Buyers have more and maybe drones but now its supplies plus batteries vs supplies. Buyers still have the advantage, but the percentage advantage is less. A f2p player can still pop vikings overdrive and double damage and clear a base, getting 3 instakills. A f2p player can still hold down a base with titans overdrive

I saw a guy playing shaft wasp an completely dominating. Not camping, attacking. K/d of 2+ in several battles. What alt would best serve that roll and any tips on how to use shaft without camping

How do you even get to legend 160? Like is there even time in the day? Noelmonster I think is legend 79 or something. I feel if I play all day I might rank in a month

Lets get bigger more open maps. Kunger and barda, while not huge are great in offering variance

The reason vulcan is bad with light hulls is the reason twins is...you must stand in the line of fire to do damage. With freeze I do damage very quickly so I can afford to speed up in a wasp and attack. With rail i can expose myself for a second before going into hiding

These mosh pit maps arent particularly fun. The best maps are those where driving is involved. Kungur, and that new one with a bridge crossing the middle, those are my favorite maps because your driving actually impacts the game. Many times, for example, Ill take a bit longer to skirt behind defenders and come by surprise. Cant do that it sandal, etc

What do people love about madness so much except nostalgia? Driving around on narrow ramps isnt that fun...for me at least..its very untanklike. As for new tanki vs old, I dont understand people wanting to go back to old days which were slower battles where druggers could take over the battle alone and where many battles were "leave or fight 10-3 for the final 8 minutes".

The only problem I can see is that it must be difficult for new players to join the game as they will run into legend players creating new accounts and will get destroyed. Other than that...TO is a great game. If you dont mult anyone can compete.

Vulcan should be used with mammoth or titan. Vikings strength is its ability to get into battle quickly while still having good hp when it gets there. Vulcan doesnt need speed, just hp

The bomb has been hard to use. Sometimes I drop it and everyone drives away. Right now Im still working to get good used for it.

So wasps bomb has been buffed and some might not like that which is fair. However I think it allows all hulls to have a part in the battle. Previously battles were basically vikings and titans...they still kinda are, but now some of the lesser used hulls can play a role. Wasp for example plays the all out attacker role excellently. You basically suicide to place a bomb well. Hornet is the skirmisher, doing damage with fast strikes like cavalry in real life. Viking is still probly the strongest hull altho its slower overdrive allows others like huntet a role. Last the heavy hulls. Titan is like the ultimate team rally point like a tank in real life. That dome goes up and I run to it. I hated them at first but they add a lot more complexity to battles imo

The viking overdrive turns it into the best "Generic" hulls. If you dont want to play any specific roles but would rather just drive around a kill enemies, viking is for you. It still does that...twice a game at least it can get 2-3 insta-kills to buiild a nice k/d. With the wasp buff I am 100% on board with these. Previously wasp/hornet had very little place in battle as they couldnt go toe-to-toe with medium/heavy hulls. They still cant now, but can play important roles in battle. Hornet has a similar overdrive to viking giving it the ability to strike deep into enemy territory, while wasp can suicide into enemy clusters and wipe them out. Maybe we will see more of these hulls in the future

I'd love to see some more big maps....when you have to drive a decent way and can explore different parts, it feels so much cooler. Berlin might be too big, but it is fun getting stuck on one part of the map and calling for reinforcements from another

Great update. Wasp OD was previously almost useless, now idk maybe better. Vikings were everywhere and just wrecked face every time they press shift, now let other hulls come up to its level. Mamoth...good that bomb deals with it

Ok this makes sense. Basically youre saying a group guarantees three decent players on a team, while without a group a team might have seven "noob mults" who do little except get wrecked. Well argued...it makes sense

This chart is over 4 years and shows and up and down trend. Even if it were to continue, that would be another four years and notice it is between 500k and 1 mil. Idk but I see 20-30k ppl online every day

Im still not convinced group tilt battles. I do much worse when I group that alone, probly bc we get harder opponents wen we group, idk. The problem might be that clans tend to have individually strong players, while nonclan players are on average less strong. I normally find a marked increase in playet skill when grouping than I do alone...games are brutal mostly

Wolverine means that this is a combat game. No one wants to just be a healer and get zero kills. Every turret needs to be able to engage in combat. I think isida is fine. There are isidaa in basically every battle...its a good turret Wolverine means that this is a combat game. No one wants to just be a healer and get zero kills. Every turret needs to be able to engage in combat. I think isida is fine. There are isidaa in basically every battle...its a good turret