The title is a world-famous-among-Helpers quote by Destrod, a former Reporter. Please do not change it, Forum Mods ? Uhh yes, I am retiring from all of my Helper positions in the next 2-3 days (maybe sooner, idk). I really need to start focusing on my education now and I won't be able to manage both real and virtual lives... Not many know this, but I was rejected for Assistant back in December 2020 when I had first tried to become a Helper, and then I applied for Newspaper Reporter. Since then, I've worked in two more positions, Social Media Helper and Wiki Content Writer. My Newspaper career was short, but it was fun while it lasted. Newspaper Reporter is one of the best positions to have ever existed, at least for me, and I am very glad that I could be a part of the Newspaper team! Wiki Content Writing was less writing, more multing, but I still enjoyed the experience of working behind the scenes on the Wiki. It was getting quite lonely in the Content Writing department until CREATOR77 showed up, and this past month was very fruitful because of Creator's activity. He also passed his candidacy today, by the way! 'Gratz! My SM career... full of ups and downs, but still very fun. Warning/muting/banning players on Discord does lead to bad blood between moderators and the punished (players)... but that's normal. I'm still grateful to everyone who fought with me, argued with me, insulted me, ridiculed me, and even loathed me — you helped me understand different perspectives better and made me a better human being! Just interacting with you all on Discord changed me from within, expanded my world view, made me question some of my core beliefs, and so much more! All of this helped me to simply become a better human being, and so I'm grateful. I would also like to apologize if I hurt you — those punishments were nothing personal. I've even had to punish good friends of mine because that's just how life works. I'm not sorry for punishing you, but I'm definitely sorry if I hurt you in any way. If you are someone who liked me, appreciated my work, gave me constructive feedback, and supported me, then thank you! Thank you, from the bottom of my heart! It is never easy to do something if everyone is against it — but if there's even one person who thinks you're doing the right thing, it's enough to keep you going, and I'm no exception to this. Thank you for being such amazing people! I will probably leave the game and the Forum too when my college starts on 14th February, but you can still contact me on Discord. My display nickname in the TO server will always have either "Venerable" or "Photo", and my Discord tag will always be "Photophosphorylation". It has been a wonderful year as a Helper, and a little more than a year as a community member (I joined the Forum quite late :p ). I'm just so happy that I could be here in this community! Alas, life rudely reminded me that it exists, and all went haywire lol. Leaving won't change my life much... I will still be a procrastinator, and I will still struggle with assignments and stuff — but at least I won't have to worry about extra things that don't concern my education much! I won't thank anyone in particular, as such actions can often hurt those who don't get mentioned... So just know that I am grateful to you all for simply being there! Whether we've been friends or enemies, I think both parties gained a little something from our interactions, and that's what matters! Off I go back into the world, Leaving this wonderful place My life's sail is now unfurled, And my life is gaining pace. I take your leave and say goodbye But don't feel bad and please don't cry Just laugh and rejoice, perhaps I'm not dead yet — not gonna lie... I'm grateful, my friends, to all of you Thank you, thank you, I bid you adieu! I'm now moving on and so must you! No, I won't be back in a week or two. >:( Much thanks, much love, much good wishes! Bye bye! ?

Catching goldboxes? Meh, not fun.* Looking at those lovely red cubes falling gracefully from the sky? Now that's what I'm talkin' about... ? Honestly though, I'm loving the festive goldbox skin! It's beautiful!

What's misleading here? The EMP status effect has been tweaked, but there is no change in EMP Immunity. If you equip EMP Immunity, supply-cooldowns along with the supplies themselves will remain unaffected by any EMPs. Wiki Administrators had opened applications for Wiki Editor about a month ago. (This part has been edited. I had written that applications were open. Applications are closed at the moment, and I sincerely apologize for the confusion.) In any case, we have only one Wiki Editor on the team right now, Kydapoot, and he's actually doing an excellent job. If you find any outdated information on the Wiki, please report it using the "Ctrl+Enter" feature, (or) in the Wiki Hub Discord server by creating a ticket, or in the Wiki Hub Forum topic. We'll try to fix it as soon as possible.

Yep, it's the same "cover skin" but without those nuclear symbols. Who knows... ? Opinions can change... Mine hasn't, however, for I prefer Freeze HD to Freeze SE. As Marcus said, "the image exactly shows how the skin looks." And no, we aren't "supposed to praise skins" just because we're Helpers. Should there be a problem if a Helper likes the new SE skin? That'd be rather unfair ? Personally, I'm not a fan of this skin — too much metal... Freeze HD shows paints better, in my opinion. But that's the point! It is impossible to have cosmetic items which are liked by every player, so it boils down to personal opinions! :)

If you have Windows 10 (or even Windows 11), and if your laptop also has a GPU (Graphics Card), then this might help:

A grenade launcher would be very similar to Snowman or Magnum if the grenades are launched in a parabolic trajectory and if they explode on contact. Or, you can also compare the grenade to a rugby ball... This doesn't sound very exciting to be honest. However, I like this "rolling" concept. If the turret could shoot out bombs which fall on the ground almost instantly and start rolling with some initial propulsion, then such a turret would be super cool! This is very similar to how a torpedo is launched from a ship — the torpedo is kinda thrown out of the ship, and it starts moving towards its target only after it enters the water below.

I am a free-to-play player even if I'm a Helper. Before I became a Helper, I was still a free-to-play player. Also, I have a few alt accounts too which do not get any benefits from my Helper-work. I said that I can see every update from the perspective of normal players (not quoting exactly), which is very much possible since I have been in their position before. I never implied (I hope) that I am an average F2P player, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm still F2P, because I don't spend real money on online games. Why do I not have 9999 GS? Simply because I'm not that good at managing resources or playing the game. Brutus is the only maxed out drone in my Garage, and I couldn't even go beyond Mk5 while upgrading Armadillo because it's too expensive (even with my "benefits"). I use Spectrum B only because I'm lazy — I don't need to worry about equipping specific protection modules in battles. My mindset is still F2P, but there's no denying that I manage to enjoy the game a bit more than normal players thanks to Helper-benefits. The majority and the minority are seldom right simultaneously, and hence there are times when one needs to be chosen over the other. It boils down to who is in a position of authority/power to make that choice. That choice will most definitely be controversial, and I think there are multiple ways to deal with that choice (or respond to it) — any further changes or tweaks depend on which way you use to respond to the decision. Having a different opinion is perfectly fine, but it becomes a problem when that opinion is expressed in a not-so-nice way. Mutual respect, politeness, and having an open mind are absolutely essential for having a fruitful and civil discussion between people with dissimilar opinions. You know, this whole thing started simply because I said that the Token of Apology containers helped in removing any remaining Mk1s from the reward-pool. Now that the Mk1 bug is fixed, that statement of mine has become somewhat obsolete. I took time to understand why those 23 containers were sent, but I eventually got it. After reading dozens of complaints/reports, I only realised that players were getting the wrong idea, and I tried to explain it to them. If I can justify or explain a certain decision made by the Developers, then I will try my best to do so in order to remove any misconceptions or confusion. However, I purposely avoid discussing stuff that I don't agree with or don't fully understand, until I get enough clarity/knowledge about it. It's just unfortunate that player's don't read my posts with an open mind and immediately jump to the conclusion that I'm defending the game just because I'm a Helper.

1) Yes, naturally. 2) I'm pretty sure that by the time a player reaches Legend (I'm referring to any high rank tbh, perhaps starting from the Lieutenant ranks), they'll get all Mk1s from containers. I think it was quite evident from the 23-containers episode that getting Mk1s from containers isn't that difficult, and getting containers has become much easier too. The higher rarities might be a problem though — we'll have to wait for new players to reach Legend (or any other high rank) and share their experiences, or create RTL-ish alts to figure it out ourselves.

One of the main reasons behind stopping the discussion was this: I found it very frustrating when not a single Forumer read my posts fully/correctly, except perhaps wolverine848 and TheCongoSpider (thanks for that, wolverine and Congo). The Forum Moderators obviously read every post fully. Every reply I got was either for a part of what I said, or for something fundamentally different from the actual point I was making (even though it was closely related to the point I made). Or, in some cases, the reply was for something that I had never said! This led to discussions on topics which I had consciously omitted from my posts (to avoid drifting away from the main point). If you read my post once again, you will find that I said "...because they're cheaper than the thousand crystals that you'll most probably get." — i.e. 1000 crystals, the common reward from the new containers. This may seem very trivial to you, but such tiny misunderstandings lead to unnecessary and often weary conversations, and I need to continuously reiterate my original point. I can't and won't deny that fact at all. The rewards and chances of containers were intentionally changed to their current form. I know that getting 1000 crystals has become very common. But I also know that this particular update is very unlikely to change, so I think I'm better off without thinking too much about it. Why am I not complaining? Well, I'm simply not complaining publicly. As mentioned earlier, there are protocols in place for Helpers to voice their concerns. I agree. I am a free-to-play player. I can easily see every update from the perspective of "the majority of the players". But despite all this, I still feel that I can see some things which the majority doesn't (I'm not saying can't, I'm saying doesn't), and voicing this opinion of mine leads to backlash. That backlash is often full of misunderstandings and toxicity, so I try my best to steer clear of such situations. I'll use an analogy here, though I'd like to clarify in advance that I do NOT think that players are completely wrong: Even if everyone except one person believes that the Sun rises in the South, it doesn't mean that the Sun rises in the South. The Sun still rises in the East. Sometimes listening to the majority isn't the best option... I won't question my Helper position even if Tanki died today. I am a Helper because I want to help. In this process of helping players, I have become a much better human being and have gained multiple new soft skills which help me out in real life. So yes, I'm slightly selfish in this regard. If I can be of assistance to players while improving myself at the same time, then I don't see any reason to question my position. Till the time I'm here, I'll try to make things better in my own little ways and with whatever powers/responsibilities that come with my position. Anyway, I've already gone far enough by replying to you despite saying that I wish to stop this discussion... :x (if required, I'll respond via Forum PM)

1. I understood that, and I am still saying that it's perfectly normal and possible. Look, even if you got that Mk1 a few days back (before Patch Update #676), it's not a problem because you already got a compensatory container for this wasted container before (among those 23 extra containers that you claimed). If you got all available Mk1s, good for you. If some Mk1s are still available in your containers' reward-pool, even then it's fine because you already got some rewards in lieu of the Mk1s that you'd inevitably get in the future, just like you got Ricochet Mk1. 2. That can't really be helped as of now because the Developers seem pretty set on adding Mk1s to containers and making turrets & hulls exclusive to containers in the near future. This is intentional. As I said before, buying those Mk1s (during sales, preferably) before opening containers is better because they're cheaper than the thousand crystals that you'll most probably get. Well, this discussion is going back and forth because irrespective of what I say, your opinion or perspective is not going to change. I have read and understood every single point that you posted, and my personal beliefs about certain aspects of the game aren't going to change in a hurry. Don't mistake this for indifference. I simply don't agree with a few points because I see the same thing from a different perspective. My responses to your complaints will never be sufficient (yes, I still have responses, but they will surely be dismissed as biased or bootlicking), so I'd like to stop this discussion from my side. Your complaints will still be forwarded by Forum Moderators in weekly/monthly reports, so don't worry about that. Reaching a consensus doesn't seem likely, and I choose to stop. You may think that I'm conceding "defeat" — I can't do anything about that. But I know a fruitless debate when I see one, so I'll stop from my side. Thank you for your time!

"Forced to purchase ALL Mk1" But that means you didn't have those Mk1s in your Garage in the first place! In that case, you never faced any "bug". As I mentioned earlier, adding Mk1s to containers was intentional (can be thought of as an alternative way to get Mk1s for now, though the Developers have already announced in V-LOG #327 that they're going to completely remove the option to buy Mk1 equipment from the Garage.) Buying all Mk1s before opening containers is a good strategy for now, as the chances of getting 1000 crystals are high — and Mk1 equipment is cheaper than that. If you read this post of mine once again, you'll see how getting 23 containers will eventually remove all Mk1s from the prize-pool (if not immediately): I understand your frustration about this update, and your complaints are well-founded — but I see no reason to complain about the Mk1 bug when it doesn't really exist anymore. That is the only reason behind my replying to your posts here. Although it is possible to fake a personality online, I am not doubting your prowess in the field of game-development. I hope that I did not come across as rude/arrogant or dismissive — that was not my intention. I urge you to keep providing feedback, but it would be really helpful if you give us constructive feedback/criticism. I strongly believe that the Developers do read player-feedback — they just may not be so open about it, or it may not be immediately apparent to players. Players expect some form of acknowledgement of the problems and concerns that they bring forward, and we try our best to give at least some part of that acknowledgement, as Helpers of the game. You might occasionally find Opex-Rah (Semyon Strizhak, Developer) replying to posts on the Forum, and even though that may not seem enough to you, I think it's a good sign. To us, being optimistic and jovial is much easier while dealing with any update or complaint or just genuine feedback. Please don't hold that against us. It does not mean that we turn a blind eye towards any update that we don't like — no. We just don't express our displeasure publicly, and frankly, there's no need to. If the community is already volatile after a controversial update, losing our cool or criticizing the game will only make things worse. Rest assured that we have our ways to communicate our feelings and feedback to the people in charge, so it's not that we're totally quiet. I did not ask you to take this discussion to PMs because I'm scared or hurt (or anything of the sort). I wanted us to discuss this via PMs simply because I did not wish to write any more text-walls in a topic which is reserved for complaints. I am not a Forum Moderator, so I cannot move this discussion elsewhere. I'm open to any debate/discussion so long as it's healthy and constructive — in public or in private. Thank you for taking out time from your real-life work to write all the feedback! :)

Explaining each update/change with more clarity and having some degree of transparency is all that I'm hoping for. Lesser the confusion, better the reception. Even negative feedback will be easier to respond to, understand, and acknowledge if the updates themselves are lucid enough. Looking forward to more finalized updates which will hopefully enhance game balance and address/answer scores of questions being raised about the very vision of Tanki Online!

If you claimed those 23 containers from the "Token of Apology" special mission, then the Mk1 bug got fixed for you, pretty much. Those 23 containers were meant to flush out any remaining duplicate turrets/hulls from the list of available container rewards. I explained why the Token of Apology containers did the trick in many of my older posts, but you can see the main ones below: [https://en.tankiforum.com/topic/394458-a-token-of-apology/?do=findComment&comment=6950192 [https://en.tankiforum.com/topic/394458-a-token-of-apology/?do=findComment&comment=6950243 [https://en.tankiforum.com/topic/389885-complaint-book/?do=findComment&comment=6950375 Now, the problem arose after the deadline for claiming those 23 containers passed. Players who failed to claim those containers never got compensatory containers for the Mk1s that they were going to eventually get from containers in the future. However, Patch Update #676 fixed this issue too. You can no longer get Mk1s from containers if you already have the higher modifications of that equipment. I'll gladly discuss this via Forum PM, so let's keep this topic limited to complaints (as much as possible). All other complaints may be valid, justifiable, needed, etc., but this particular complaint about the Mk1 issue is baseless if you claimed those extra 23 containers from the Token of Apology. Also, adding Mk1s to containers was intentional. The Developers made a mistake during implementation, and for this they gave those 23 containers as a token of apology. (N.B. complaints about worse container-rewards are different, and I have nothing against those complaints.)

Hi, I have edited my post. You see, for some reason, the system failed to detect the presence of Mk1s if they were bought as M0s before the M to Mk conversion in January (?) 2020. (I was going to update my older posts after I got to know about this M0 anomaly, but I forgot to do it on time ?) You can see my "updated" posts here: I'm extremely sorry for the confusion and inconvenience.

Well... yes, this entire update and the feedback received will definitely be a lesson, because in my honest opinion, there should have been no confusion at all — but people still got confused, so Tanki could have explained everything in a better way to avoid all this. According to me, this particular update is an intermediate step before a major update. The reasoning given by developers for adding Mk1s to containers is this (in the V-LOG): "this will help new players to better understand the mechanics of a turret before moving on to a new turret". I am not yet fully convinced by this, and hence I won't comment further. I think a few weeks after this update, every high-ranked player will have easily removed all Mk1s from the list of available rewards of regular containers. Hence, this update of adding Mk1s to containers won't affect them at all. If you got Wasp Mk1 today, then rest assured that you will never get it again. If, by any tiny chance, you get it again, then you can write to Tech Support and seek a refund (help@tankionline.com). You should not be getting augments again if you already own them. That is definitely a bug and you can ask for a refund (contact Tech Support for this, again).

Ma'am, please read the Token of Apology announcement once again. The Developers made a mistake: if you had bought Mk2 or higher modifications of a turret, then the system thought that you never had that Mk1 turret in your Garage! Or, if your account is very old: if you had bought the M0 version of a turret and you got the Mk1 version of that turret after the M to Mk conversion, even then the system thought that you never had the Mk1 version of that turret in your Garage. This was their mistake. To correct this (and also apologise), they sent 23 containers. Now, in my case, since "Venerable" is a relatively new account, I had bought the Mk1 versions of every turret and hull directly. I never bought Mk2-Mk7 without owning the Mk1 version first. Also, I never bought any "M0" turret/hull because my account was made after the M--->Mk update. This means that in the list of available rewards from regular containers, I will not have any Mk1, because the system knows that I had Mk1s in my Garage before. Hence, there was actually no need to compensate me! If this is still not clear, I would gladly explain it to you via Forum PM! However, please read the Token of Apology announcement once again, and also remember that adding Mk1s to containers was intentional. They simply made a mistake during implementation... Unfortunately, this is not possible. Players below a certain rank (Staff Sergeant, 7th rank) do not have access to all Mk1s. Hence, giving them all Mk1s is not possible.

Of course it doesn't make sense! This is exactly the mistake for which the Developers issued a Token of Apology! No, no — you misunderstood me. Since I had bought every Mk1 hull/turret (after the M to Mk conversion), these Mk1s never showed up in the list of available rewards of regular containers. In other words, it is impossible for me to ever get an Mk1 from a container (even before the Token of Apology containers arrived). These containers were extra ones that gave me free supplies, crystals, paints, and augments. I will never get any Mk1s in the future as well.

I understand what you're trying to convey. However, consider this: 1. The Developers intentionally added Mk1 equipment to regular containers 2. These Mk1 items were intentionally assigned rarities. 3. These Mk1 items are meant to become regular rewards in the future, but only if you don't have them in your Garage. All of this essentially means that they've made certain Mk1 equipment equivalent to some other items when it comes to rarity and value. They have complete rights to do this. Now, whether or not this is good, ethical, profitable, etc. is another story. I won't get into that for now. This means that irrespective of what Mk1 you get, irrespective of its rarity, it is still considered a single container's reward. To compensate, another container is considered as a proper replacement. Using your example, if you get a rare Mk1, then it does not necessarily mean that you were supposed to get a "rare" item. You were never really supposed to get the item in the first place. Getting another container for this wasted container is perfectly alright, though you may not get an item of the same rarity. But here, do you pause and consider the fact that you can also get an item of a higher rarity? Yes, the chances are low, but the chances are there. I hope this makes sense!

Ma'am, I respect your opinion, but please hear me out... Not all players faced this problem of getting repeated Mk1s. In fact, I was one of the rare few players who did not have a single Mk1 in their containers' reward-pool. This is because I bought the Mk1 version of every turret and hull first and then upgraded them. "Venerable" is a relatively new account. I don't think it was possible to directly give Mk1s to players who faced this problem due to logistical difficulties. Giving 23 extra, free containers is actually a very smart and simple way to remove every single Mk1 equipment from the pool of rewards sooner or later. Getting 23 containers is a "non-negative profit" situation. You will have zero profit if and only if you never had the Mk1 versions of 23 turrets & hulls in your Garage at least once (this does not include Smoky, Viking/Crusader, and Hunter/Ares, as these are available for free). Do keep in mind that if you bought M0 versions, then the system doesn't consider them as Mk1 even if you ended up with Mk1s after the M to Mk conversion. In all other cases, you will get extra supplies/crystals or even paints & augments. There's nothing to complain about, because most players have got extra items and also got rid of a few Mk1s! For a small number of players, the containers have given only extra items (like in my case), or only Mk1s, sooner or later (very rare, but still possible). Also, the changes made to containers are all intentional. It does not matter whether the rewards got nerfed or not — it was intentional, and the Token of Apology simply gave containers as compensation for the mistake the Developers made specifically regarding Mk1 equipment in containers. Yes, they could have done that, but giving 23 extra containers is much simpler and more effective — it achieves the same goal with hardly any hassle (albeit with plenty of confusion among players).

All I'm saying is that every wasted container got compensated by another container. Even though it is extremely unlikely that someone gets 23 Mk1s from their hard-earned containers, Tanki still gave 23 containers as a compensation (even if you lost less than 23 containers). Adding Mk1s to containers was intentional, it's just that they made a mistake during implementation. It is natural to feel bad if you get a lower rarity reward in lieu of the wasted Mk1 container, but that shouldn't matter - you still got compensated with another container, which could also give you an even better reward. ?

It's definitely not wrong, but I agree that it's slightly misleading. I'll update/edit my post(s) later, when I get some time. As @numericable (and I, too) said above, it seems as if the system doesn't recognize an Mk1 if it was obtained after the conversion from M0.

No, mate — that's like saying "I had 50 eggs out of which 23 turned out to be "bad" (analogous to 23 Mk1s), so I need a compensation of 180 eggs because the "bad eggs" could have been beautiful chickens (analogous to getting a same rarity item)!" If you had 23 bad eggs, then you got 23 new eggs as a compensation. If you had fewer bad eggs, even then you got 23 new eggs as a compensation. Now please keep in mind that these 23 eggs cannot all be bad when you compare this situation to the Mk1s from containers, because you already got bad eggs (Mk1s) before! You can't and mustn't count your chickens before they hatch. As far as I know, you cannot get turrets/hulls from Ultra Containers.

Some important changes for PRO battles coming up... ? We'll soon need Premium account to create battles. Slightly apprehensive about this tbh...

What exactly are those hulls & turrets? They're simply container-rewards! For every Mk1 turret/hull, you get a container. So if any of your containers got wasted because you got Mk1s of equipment that you already have, then those containers simply got "replaced" by other new containers. These containers may or may not give you a reward having the same rarity as the turret/hull that you got, but that shouldn't matter at all. The wasted container got a new container as compensation (or replacement, in a way). Once you remove all Mk1s from your container-reward-pool, the remaining containers give you extra rewards!

(From the quotebox in your post) It was definitely mentioned (even in the V-LOG). But... ... I agree with you here.