nothing to do with a smaller player base. it's money. they make more money this way.

Just wondering why there weren't any 6-8k GS tanks put on the blue team to even out this game like tanki MM does for red team when they are losing by 12...

still waiting.

Why was this picture deleted from the 'pic of the day' thread? Since this is viewable by all--members and guests alike, on the forum, for all to see, without profanity, within the guidelines of the thread, why could it not remain posted? What is the actual rule I have broken here? (feel free to quote the rule in a response) This is my complaint for today.

Same. Nothing I need. Everything I don't. But that rail aim assist...

Two people with opposing views CAN have a discussion about it. And argue about those views. True story. Welllll... to be perfectly honest, you have censored me in the past based on the potential of where the discussion could have gone (from your point of view). What's worse? A 'childish argument'? Or 'adults' who choose to complain about a 'childish argument'. (and who continue to log into the forum every single day and read every message in that 'childish argument' despite the argument being in a part of the forum they would have to actively seek it out to read it (every single day)...?)

(And a big shout out and thank you to the forum moderators for letting this discussion happen organically)

Last time. Then I'm done. I cannot make it more plain than this. In simple words... Under no circumstance. Ever. (Regardless of upgrades or not) Should any 4kGS--or lower--tank be in a battle with 6-8kGS tanks. (Regardless of upgrades or not) Ever. (If you believe it happens because someone's tank isn't 'maxed out', you are completely and utterly missing the point)

The stupidest sight in tanki today has officially become this thread.

? Wasn't now or have I ever been looking for anyone else's agreement. The 'MM issue' will never be fixed because a 'fixed' MM system doesn't make tanki any money. I have long ago accepted this. I am WAY past the point of being frustrated by it. But I still like to point out the complete idiocy of MM (and to a lesser extent, expose the... 'players'... who continue to defend the MM inequities as just a 'rare occurrence' or 'anomaly' of having less players playing). Not sure what pictures you're looking at, but if this match isn't an example of 'bad' (with respect to me being put in it), then please stop replying to any post I will ever have because you really... (how can I put this so I don't get a 'forced vacation'... hmm...) you really need to go outside and touch grass because you are failing to understand the contents of this match/picture. (note, this is not me getting emotional, this is me wondering about your perception of reality). I don't take anything here personally. Not sure what 'voice' you're reading my words in, but maybe the choice of phrases and words we are using isn't received the best, maybe? When I underline or bold or italic anything in my replies, it is because you (and others) have completely missed my point, missed key words and/or phrases, or weren't even reading what I wrote because you were too busy replying in your head before you finished reading. And again, to that, I say you don't really know what you are talking about. You have never met me in battle, know my tactics, nothing. And the only thing you proved (to me) is the exact opposite to what you think you proved. You're arguing the MM is balanced. Take a moment and let that sink in. You're arguing that tanki is skill based. Take a moment and also let that sink in. I have one final request and you can all go back to being bored with the forum for the next few days. If you think tanki's MM is balanced, please, I beg you, BLOCK me. I have no desire to be dragged into your delusional world where you know a guy who's hairdresser's dog walker's third cousin did well playing tanki because of (insert anecdotal meandering story here).

Some would say you are doing something 'very wrong'...

If you think it's off one map then you're 'kinda' and 'sorta' naive. And I don't care what you think of the number of crystals i have. Lol. Ok bud. You believe whatever your little heart wants to believe. Literally dozens of threads here in the forum complaining about MM, literally dozens of comments in the chat area about MM, but Mr. Tekken8 thinks he knows how everyone plays, everyone's matches, everyone's tanks, everyone's upgrades and that everyone is doing something 'very wrong'... Good lord, I have never read anything more (delusional) in my life. Do you believe what you say? I already play amongst legends at my 4k rank. Hence the complaints. But I usually leave those battles. LITERALLY, MY ENTIRE COMPLAINT. You have successfully argued yourself into a perfect circle of silliness. Look at the picture of the original 'stand corrected' match I posted. Your whole argument could have been avoided by not wasting the bandwidth and the server space here. And finally... As an aside: Why do some of you take my complaints so utterly personal? Is this how you define your lives? Tanki masters? In your minds, are you back in '68 rolling into Czechoslovakia? Or zooming across the N. African dessert in '44? I'm asking. Do you get up in the morning and put on Tanki underwear and think to yourselves "I'm going to be super awesome at tanki today and no one will complain about tanki... or else!' I'm asking. Unless you own tanki, work at tanki, have the word 'tanki' tattooed on your butt, why do any of you take offense to my complaints? You realize that it's quite easy to scroll past my posts if they have ever made you cry, right? True story. Or... as one or two chat mods have told me in the past about a porche owning menace... If you find what I say so offensive, silly, inane, or utter tripe, then BLOCK ME.

It's fun reading all the vague and 'kinda' and sorta' and 'can have's' and all the other anectodal meandering explanations and excuses for tanki's shortcomings.

So, I took your advice and upgraded my brutus to 19 (I don't have access to the crystals money fountain that everyone else who thinks this is a fabulous game has), and gave it a test run. Did my 'performance' get better? Was my 'effectiveness' less 'hurt'? Did I become more successful? More kills? Did my team win? Did it bring the gear scores of my opponents in the match closer together to match mine? No. So clearly Brutus upgrades isn't the magical solution you seem to think it is. It's funny because I think you demonstrate a vastly greater knowledge of the game here than most. But then you come up with literally the most baffling statements which gives me no choice but to believe otherwise.

The problem compounds itself--it's designed that way--as I upgrade, my opponents continually remain out of reach as well. This isn't rocket science. Tanki has never been: 'I upgraded my brutus drone to lvl 20 and now i'm kicking A.' I just get put in arenas with even higher ranked GS's as I upgrade my tank. This isn't my first rodeo. But I appreciate being summarily dismissed because of a lack of DRONE upgrade. LOL. And every once in a while, despite tanki's best efforts to the contrary, I do manage to be quite skillfull, pick my spots, be sneaky, and do well--even with my 'complaining' and my 'hurting effectiveness'. But these battles are rare. Again. If you think upgrading my drone will suddenly make my tank competitive against 6-8k GS, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe this is why there are STILL people (such as yourself) who think all f2p players need to do is just 'grind' and they'll get everything a paying player does. Clearly. Not.

I never said fully upgraded. I said upgraded. And if you think a fully upgraded saboteur in this match actually has a chance against 5-8k GS tanks, I'm not sure what to tell you, LOL!! You'll have to post a link to the crystal-tree you are able to find all these crystals raining down from above... My useless rewards containers typically look like this: and As far as the other 'epic' or 'super awesome' or 'mega total fabulousness' containers, I just get more of the same... 300 speed boosts, for example. The number of games I leave vs stay and play for any length of time is at least 5:1. Tanki is designed for imbalanced games. The 'decent' games are few and far between--and even some of those games get the 6-8kGS tanks added to the enemy half way through the match and I sometimes leave those as well. And it is for that reason that I feel my picture was the stupidest sight I saw in tanki yesterday. Being put in a match with that much inequity. I'd love upgrade my tank to reach that magical 4800gs you claim, but--for example--here are my vast choices of protection... Also, I'd love a better choice than just these 'tokens of loserness': So while I appreciate all the assumptions you've made about my abilities and competencies, none of that works when you get one-shotted from an aim-assist rail from the other side of the arena. If you've made it to the end, thank you for reading. I added lots of pictures (for others). ?

It is upgraded. However, there is no drone that will make my tank competitive with other tanks who have 2 and 3 times the GS I do.

Staying true to the title of this thread, I present to you: Wait... I stand corrected:

@Maf @Lord I super enjoyed reading your perspectives and you both have incredibly valid points. Thank you for the read!

With the exception of the name, very little remains the same. Some people here think that the changes to the game are fabulous and super awesome, and there are an equal number of people who think the game is garbage and nothing like the original game that you remember. The number one rule you need to remember as you return to playing here--above all else--is that this game has developed to make money for the owners. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything--literally everything--has been specifically designed and engineered to make you spend money on this game. Matchmaking imbalance? Designed that way. Upgrades? Designed that way. More expensive supplies for a lesser quantity? Designed that way. Frantic pace with zero teamwork? Designed that way. Drugs, drones, protections, and battle passes? Designed that way. Buffs and nerfs? Designed that way. Getting one-shotted from the other side of the arena through a wall by a rail turret? Designed that way. You'll wonder why your team is suddenly losing after winning for most of the game? Designed that way. Enjoy your time here. Feel free to return after a while of playing and tell us what you think of this place 10 years later.

lol. Are we still blaming everything else but the one thing consistently responsible...?

lol. Again, sadly I agree.

lol. Sadly, i agree.