They hate you if you have not spend money yet. They love you in the moment you spend money. They hate you after you have spend money and do not plan to spend more. nah, just kidding ;) Not all alternations have been released yet. They are working on it, but they do not state a release date. Just have some patience and enjoy the game as it is now, as most other M1s also have no alternation to use. You can look up the available alternations on the tanki wiki page: http://en.tankiwiki.com/Alterations @Renting alternations ..yes, it is available only for money. This is like that just for the sake to make Tanki earn more money. You can "try" them also without money, by buying them completely.. the money is the fee to relieve you from the risk of spending your crystals on something that you might not like. Customer friendly? <No. Clever?<Maybe. Shortsighted?<cant tell. If I would be in your shoes tracks, I would simply wait. Wait for after the rebalance; after that they will rework their rebalance short thereafter.. and by then maybe release more alternations. On those alternations you will find reports in the forum.. and then ask a little around here and make your decision based on that. Earning crystals in tanki is actually too hard (you will see later), that you could give them away easily. ps: Don't spend to much on M1s.. it's time to save up for M2s or even a suitable M2 kit.

It's solved ;)

Thanks guys, I'm not worried.. I just thought someone has to tell them, so they even know they have an issue here ;)

Yeah, my first thought was as well, that my account was hacked :P then I checked if my account owns a grey paint now... but as I still didn't I calmed down :) Then I started that post here, to let em know.

If you can live with your Fire and Freeze on your Viking, then don't buy any more M1s. Save to M2s. If you have a favorite mid/longrange turret, then maybe you should get this one in M1.. but it would be better to save up for an early M2 kit. Dont buy paints and protections either, those weak ones are useless. You need at least 20% to feel a change. If you find it difficult to battle that you should start to focus on one or two turrets and use them more often - in order to skill up with them. Also you can play lower ranked battles to earn crystals - and just from time to time higher ranked battles to learn from better tankers. If you play dictator-rail you will notice the positive things that the other told you about.. but you will also notice that you die faster. Your rail does less damage per shot (compensated by faster reload) which leads to the fact that you have to expose yourself more often. As dictator is a pretttttyyyyy big hull, but has same HP as Viking and Hunter you will simply be hit more and die more often. If you just play peek-a-boo with your dictators rear mounted turret in defense, then you might consider to try a Wasp. Sounds crazy, but you have a rear mounted turret as well.. and in case of strong close-rangers coming in, you just drive away. You are also faster to move from one good sniping point to the other. If you don't depend on the rear-mounted turret, then a Hunter should be the better choice now, as the increased stabillity of Dictator does not make much of a difference, if I take the reduced impact forces into account (on the testserver even a M3 Rico or Smoky on close range did not manage to distrurb my M3 Viking that much..) I would not chose to play Dictator-Shaft, as the shaft have to take care to be concealed as long as possible. Thats hard in a dictator, due to its large height. Short-range manoverability and stabillity against impact force are nor necessary for shafts. Any other medium hull should work better with Shaft.

any news on that?

EDIT2: Seems they solved the issue already whitin the last 2h :) When I look at my personal profile the color on my tank is grey - and I dont even have a grey paint in my garage. This shall be black... but it seems something is wrong in the way the 3D model is rendered. EDIT1 : All tanks are grey, not only mine. No matter what paint they have equipped. Try out yourself: http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/

I got no answers at all. But the wiki guys are pretty busy at the moment - and they are volunteers. So we cant blame them for it.

actually a wider tank should be able to ride through curves with less drift, as it has a wider bas combined with a lower center of gravity. This leads to less tilt if he moves through a curve and therefore it should keep better ground contact. Of course only if same weight and same witdh ond lenght of tracks. But as Viking has longer and wider tracks then hunter (IMHO) it should also drift even less. But I know.. tanki is not into realism (thats ok). Still they could skip that exchange, and balance the hulls instead of swapping them and making hunter then better then a viking.

I think he ment that he drives a light hull with some pre-damage (but not massive), and then a sudden 1hit of a smoky deals 100dmg and finishes him off.

I had my testrides on the testserver already. The great Wasp-Driing experience is gone..

in a screenshot (Static picture) you can not see tanks lagging (moving non-smooth). I can make you a screen of my ping, but this is not usefull either. so.. maybe I don't get what you mean. What did you mean I should screenshot?

fact: the freezing effect is worse, the damage is increased. Energyconsumtipon increased (faster empty), reload increased (loads faster) speculation: I think we will see an alternation for trading damage vs freezing effect..

..like wiping all garages completely, rendering the players alone without any crystals, setting them to recruits and expecting them to continue to pay and pay even more? Oh.. hmm.. I think they actually _can't_ do anything.

actually the advantage of wasp was always its great cornering.. it tkaes curves like on rails, while the hornet drifts like crazy. The new wasp is much less crispy in it's curving.. and it makes less fun -.- The hornets just stays the better dodger with better acceleration. Speed difference is not such awesome that it would make a large difference any more. Sad things actually..

Today again almost every tanker I met lagged - while my ping was 20..35. The others had great ping too, one had even just 10ms. It was soooo obviously a delay caused by the serverprocessing. What are you doing on your servers? Running some kind of statistic collectors all the time? Or are you just in permanent overload? Could you pleeeeeeeeeaaaassssee code a unified lobby that hides all servers from us; so if players create battles you can balance the load on the servers as you wish? This would be very usefull..

as I don't know it but want to know it too, I offer you to try it out. I've an M3 Viking so we could have a reasonable meassure on time in various scenarios. Just send me a friendrequest and we can check that.

1) I played it on the weekend on the testserver, and tried the equipment and hulls I am used to, or that I was concerned about. 2+3) disqualifies you as discussion partner.. so I see no more reasons to continue talking to you. Still good luck and have a nice day! :)

1) I did. Did you? 2) A "Balance by Tanki" like this one does usually not ruin the game, it changes the game. In this rebalance they have done some good stuff too, like they do in most rebalances. Few players complain about those things that are truely improving the game.. they are upset by chagnes that - do not improove the balance-of-power, but do take away your stuff or your fun (as far as I saw in their comments) The game continues.. it is more a question of how much fun do they take out, thats does not needed to be taken out?(example: agility of Wasps and Hornets. Not max speed, I mean agility. will the balance of power be better then before? Do they reach it clever or just by making more and more turrets and hulls the same? how many injustified changes to they introduce (like swapping not some, but almost all hunters and Vikings stats, and thereby not tweaking/balancing the hulls but literaly exchanging them.. which again leaves one better then the other = inbalanced) do they sacrifice (again) diversity, fun, balance-of-power and unique gameplay of turrets and hulls for the sake of -> "we want an equal amount of hours-used for each turret through over the community", because this is what they call "balance" ? I am sure you already know, that this is a game where players invest time to get something they desire (gear, rank). So the perception of a rebalances is usually better if things are "tweaked" instead of "ripped of their intial characteristics you loved them for" (and I dont talk about OP damage). Tweaking is fine and players get used to.. while changing fundamental characteristics the players love their turrets and hulls for, feels like betrayel, robbery, or both. 3) please watch the way you talk/write here. Respect is mutual. Thanks, very apriciated.

^at the moment they wrote, that hull alternations are not planned (source, tanki wiki, the page with the alternations). But I think they will come. It will take some time until the turret alternations are fully rolled out and tweaked.. but I think that hull alternations will be the next step.

if I may give a tiny hint: I guess it would be very, very usefull, if you either state your complaint _again_ or place a link to your original complant post. If you dont do so, you place only more workload on cedrik.. and this will not help him to get your complaint solved.

good luck! Use each day you have to do something good ;)

..untested by me, as I am no thunder user. If I test it, I could not compare it well to the things you are used to. True, but I thought testing M3s is most usefull as I had only 2h testing time. The game was in the past balanced in M4 - and not in M3. But with the new update exactly this issue should be solved (was their intention, to balance out the power of M3s as they now all unlock at the same rank). So I guess you can translate a lot of "what competes with what" to the M4s; while the handling is a different story of course. For me it's positive that the wasp/hornet/rail has less difference now from M3 to M4. It was always a pain to change from non-MU-XP/BP to a normal battle with MUs..

Thats my test results from yesterday night http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=281046&p=5801787

yeah it really works likethat. If you face some issue with a "biased" chat mod, take a screenshot and contact Ostrica or some superiors. _They_ truely clean up.