You seem to play in a small demographic of the overall player base that is entirely dissimilar to the game 99% of us experience. Your position here is that there are only 12 good TO players out of 50-60k and they are all in your clan. The thousands of other players in TO all use Smoky "wrong". That is whay it is uncommon to see more than one Smoky in a basic battle ... no one knows how to use them. These 12 have worked out the Mystery of which is this week's Most Powerful Turret. Up until this post your comments claimed Shaft was this turret. But then again you say you have not played for 4-5 months. So you are sort of all over the map, but are entertaining in a sense.

Excellent everyone. This time it is going much better. I have about 65 Containers recorded now. I will post the first summary when I have 100.

You clan contains 50,000+ players does it?

You must be right since there a lot of mistaken posts here. So I have tried again in a 2nd thread. Please use this thread from now on. This Thread Is Closed

This project is live and collecting new data, Just post yours in a reply. Thank you. Containers are a new system. Players now get Containers in addition to the reward items listed in Wiki. We know what sort of items are inside Containers but not the chances they appear. That is what this project attempts to learn. If enough people post the results of the Containers they open we will eventually have a good estimate on these probabilities. This thread is a place to post the results of Container openings for data collection. Comments and questions should go in the discussion thread. If you want to help out, please post your container results, in full, as you gain and open them. Results can be seen in the reports thread. Please post the results like this 125 SU, 3.5k, 3 days PA 125 RK, 125 DD, Lead paint 5 GB, 5 GB, 10k Examples reflact 3 rewards from a 4-week mission chain, === Results Reporting and Discussion Thread ===

This information is incomplete. Incomplete information does me no good. I need to know all three rewards, the exact rewards, from each container.

I am asking people to post all openings not to cherry pick. But nothing is perfect.

Smoky a game-changer? You don't see this comment on the forum everyday / ever. Maybe at a certain rank when you have m0 gear and the Smoky guy has an m1+10/10mu steps. That narrow rank window will not last long. You'll soon see a different dynamic. Magnum is OP because it can sit in great safety and interfere with the enemy team virtually anywhere on the map on any map. Other turrets must maneuver much more and expose themselves to much more risk. It's absurd splash radius means little player skill is needed.

The new Containers ssyem for missions rewards will be good or bad depending on how often valuable items are earned compared to the less-valuable rewards. Please help us learn when the odds are by posting your opened Container results on this thread.

I do not see where we disagree on anything here. This has nothing to do with Earn Cry missions though. I look at battles like this when I have no ry missions. In fact I will sometimes play to the end of a loss just to get some Cry, if the game is not too far from ending. If anything Cry missions will keep me in a loss more than get me to exit a loss. I do not see Cry missions as being a detriment to the game overall.

Results are determined when they are opened. Otherwise the programming would have to create massive data fields to hold all the unopnened container data. That would eat up resources like crazy for no good purpose.

LittleWillie got one 3.5k and one 3 day PA. The PA paid 7.5k in log-on rewards. Plus I played LW a bit more than usual to take advantage of the PA. I do not know how much that earned me but it is safe to assume 4k-5k perhaps a bit more. I got 125 SUs plus a handful of all Supplies frokm the PA log-ons. I "lost" 4.4k as compared to 3x, but gained about 16k. I "lost" 20 RKs, 58 DA, 58 DD, and 58 Mines as compared to 3x, but gained 67 SUs. For me over 11k more than makes up for 20 RKs and 107 net basic Supplies even at full 150/50 value. But not every week will be this lucrative. Help us find out one way or the other by contributing your results to this investigation.

OK I have the results from 18 Containers entered in my spreadsheet. Two posts were incomplete so I was unable to use those data. Please post the exact three rewards you get from each container. The goal is to get a handle on how often each of the 18 different rewards appear. We need more data before posting any percentages. Too few data now. The results are misleading. Please help getting contributors by linking this thread to other relate forum topics. Thanks!

When MM goes like the Pro Pass will go away. Pro section battles will be open to all. So, if you chose, you can probably drop those GBs to yourself or at least most of them. If you chose. So far as containers go, I am miles ahead in the Cry side in all accounts. Some accounts have taken a hit in supplies, but no account is is need. I will take a system the give more Cry and fewer Supplies. But too few samples yet to draw conclusions. I also got the Elektra paint which I have to admit I Iv'e always thought was perhaps the nicest look.

Cool. When we get 50 or so containers I'll put up some percentages.

Sure. I just meant to show that buying a long term PP wont flat-out double your income.

You were correct 99% od the time :) Australian Rules Football. :)

Not exactly correct. Any backfield player can receive the hike and throw the ball forward. That forward throw can occur after any number of backwards throws. Only one forward pass is allowed per hike but any number of lateral or backwards throws.

mm=Matchmaking WO definitely ahead, Legend maybe not maybe break-even? We will see.

My guess is you will get more Cry and less Supplies under this system ... exactly what you want. It all depends on the percentage table. Save the GBs for mm and the free access to the Pro sectin.

I need to know how many times each reward was obtained not just the aggregate totals.

How is thanking maf "insulting him"? SMH. The "post only results" applies to the entire audience. Not maf. Once again, maf was thanked for his post.

Nope this is wrong. It assumes 90% of a daily missioner's income is form the battle fund. Vut the daily missioner does not grind. I estimate mine is more like 20-30%. The other portion comes from weekly mission rewards, the daily missions themselves, and promotion bonuses. So you Player 2 has only a 20-30% income advantage over player 1. (A bit less now since player 1 will get free PPs from Containers via missions.) That is unless Player 2 is also a grinder. Then yeah the income advantage goes up. But so too does leveling. Cry / Exp might go down.

MY guesstimate is the 1.8x + Contained system will give us slightly more Crystals, sligihtly more RKs, but slightly fewer basic supplies, than the 3x system it just replaced. (Plus paints and GBs.) Players like you and I who have a lrge stock of basic supplies will probably like the new system. We will learn more with time. PS: Harelquin is the best :angry: :P

Unless you bought them on sale. Then they'd cost 3,250. Or on sale as part of the 100x Kit. The 100x Kit on sale works out to 12.5 Cry per DD, DA, SU or Mine 37.5 for an RK. That's 1,563 Cry for 125. There's no "right" answer. If you are out getting 125 means more than if you already own 10,000 of them. :)