I had a mission to win in Top-3, and there is one left to finish it. I tried hardly to complete this mission, first battle I was in CTF mode. I captured one flag, Trying hardly to defend, less-cares about K/D, most of my cares was just about capturing-defending. My team was a weak in defense, in the last 2 minutes, I noticed that I'm in 4th place, I tried hardly to kill opponents, but I found my team is again weak in defense. I return to defend the flag with less kills, so the game finished 1-0 or 1-1 but I'm in 4th place, and haven't get the reward I want. My team was just a selfish and caring about kills, ok what I benefited here by their kills? First obviously no one captured a flag, and their kills weren't in a defense. So even in their kills it's just a mindless kills, a pure evidence that it's not a team-based kills, just searching for the highest kills they want. Btw, tried many battles after that, one of them was in Siege. I tried hardly to kill the opponent in the point, and tried hardly with one Isida that helped me and we captured one point, then suddenly I see the red team take a hard progress, and I couldn't capture any other point, every time I go to the point I zapped by many players killing me. Then after that I realized, wait a second (talking with my mind) where are my team? I realized that just I'm and that Isida the ones who caring about the point, literally every other one in my team were playing with their sake. And the other team maybe have 5 players who are all going to the point, and for your information, my fake team wasn't kill the ones in the point, just a mindless kills with anyone they want to kill. So for sure I noticed the result reached to 3-1 points for them, and I realized no chance for me to win, I left after that. As I don't want to waste the 3 remaining minutes, while I know purely I will lose without any chance to change this fact. And for sure the red team deserve this win, as they played with truly team-play. One or two or three defenders in CTF is a good thing, but what if all the team were defenders? and for sure many of them not a real defenders, just grinding on the kills even fighting a flipped one ignoring the one who stole their flag!!! Oh wait, many times you send to me invite in a group but I mostly on another webpage and not realizing that I have invites from you, or sometimes when I'm about to click "Join the group" the time for the invitation vanish,

Heavy Weight in Parkour is just a farce, every time when I fight someone they switch to HW and destroy my game completely. See how this game against Hopper + Heavy Weight, literally no chance for me to fight. Completely broken, Stock Hopper is an unflipable, but what if it combined with Heavy Weight, at least stock Hopper I can push him something and made him far from me, but with Heavy Weight I neither can flip them nor I can push them. At least when I fight someone with Viking HW, I could flip him sometimes, and maybe sometimes I flip them more than they flip me (though it's unfair fight) but with Hopper, it's faster than me, and lighter than me, but strangely heavier than me. Today I'm with a Hopper HW, and obviously neither I'm a noob nor he a skilled. Because before that he was with Viking-Twins and I flipped him 3 times in a row, though we all know Twins is superior to Ricochet in flipping. For sure, every time something like this happen, I don't complete playing and leave directly. But I complete playing here just for the video purpose. Because it's such a stupidness from me and foolish if I complete fighting. Btw, he start fighting me suddenly with no reason. But obviously maybe I flipped his friend so he intervene to fight me, and this thing happen to me a lot. Yes, I'm a mult in Parkour mode, I flip everyone I see. But no one have the right to fight me with such a strength, I get annoyed by those who fight me with no reason just for their friend. I want to revenge, but this incredible strength made him rekt me and get their right completely. Disguting, they should fight me with the same power.

We talk in general about certain players actions, and most of them didn't have any internet or PC issues, just a pure mindless playing from them. Btw, you're right if we determined someone with Nickname and real picture, in this we're completely wrong and need to give him excuses. But we just talk in general about certain acts, no one is identified. Btw, we play in the game and see some actions that we disgust by them. We didn't criticize or insult them in Chat, just talking here in general. When someone have some missions about killing a certain number of enemies, or collecting Sky Boxes, he should play in TDM, not in CTF in example. And even if he had 70K damage mission in CTF, I usually when I have these mission, my cares in flags is way more than in doing meaningless damage. Ok what happened to Wolverine? just lose that game because the meaningless playing by their teammates. Btw, in general if someone have an internet issue that restrict him from playing, the blame goes to him not anyone other. But in general when I have internet lag, I couldn't take the flags in CTF because it will be dropped after certain time, but in CP your internet wont restrict you from staying in the point for some seconds, except if your PING was higher than 999+, so you don't have to play ever with this ping. Btw. Again, it's just a criticize about how someone plays, with no a personal or even identify the Nickname (even game Nickname).

Improve your skills maybe you're a noob

I found that your sentence is a hot and applied 100% to my discussion so I quoted it, while I wasn't want to notifi you I forgot that you will get a notification.

That's it, I mean by their logic about Protections, so there is no way to nerf anything. EMP Gauss has no way to get nerfed, especially while players invested real money on it. But this is not a logical, and developers should nerf what they want to nerf, so it's a normal and easy thing to nerf protection modules regardless of who invested some crystals on them.

Auto-cannon is powerful, but I don't see it's OP. However it's really really annoying and hateful, it disgusted me. If I can I will make a slap to them from my screen, really annoying??

To keep you updated and obviously no one cares. Decided to read it today as suddenly saw it on my bookmarks, just have read some paragraphs and haven't understood also frightened from the big wall-text closed the page deleted the bookmark

Ok I will try to upgrade my modules in next sales?

Maf answered you here Think about that for a second. Let's say developers followed the logic that players should get compensated when their equipment gets nerfed. Would you then also be happy to have to pay extra crystals every time your equipment gets buffed? ? So the developers do anything they want without caring of who have invest in that, you can do the same petition to Smoky nerf. Protections were in lower price than they are now, so if you have bought them before this higher price they should swallow some crystals from you? Opss that too much, protections hurt the Hammer as you need to kill them with 2 clips. Some times also with my Viking OD I couldn't kill a certain players with high protection modules, especially when I play with Vulcan or Rico, and even with my Hunter OD I couldn't kill people with high protections. To be honest True.. I don't remember if I have suggest this before, and true I'm in a favor of long-ranged turrets, but they hardly compose just half of my time in the game, "Railgun-Shaft-Magnum" So I don't consider myself as a purely long ranged player. Btw, what I mean is either this or that, as Wild said "50% protections are to force to change their turrets" Maybe you play with other game that we don't play, I see many player with Vulcan module

I don't see any problems here as the nerf is on a percentage, this is the same thing happening to every turret that have nerfed before. The problem is In every turret Mk8 = 2x Mks. but in Protections Mk8 = 3x Mks. From Mk7 to Mk8 it's 15% protections, 3 single upgrades. So it's not Mk8 it's 3 upgrades, so the percentage of the nerf isn't a constant. But if the protections limited to 45%, the nerf will be easier and it will be 35% - 30% - 25% - 20% - 15% - 10% - 5% - 0% from Mk8 to Mk1. Btw, it's their problem as they made it reach to 50% it's too high and frustrating thing when your damage is the half. Yes the prices should be lower, as their effectiveness get nerfed. Yes, 1 or 2 is an issue for me, how I could fight them? Either they're 1 or 8 I have an issue while fighting them, or why I complain if I'm about to neglect them and fight another enemies. Ok where is the problem? This 50% protection affected all of the turrets, and I haven't suggest a buff for Railgun because of modules, I suggest a nerf for Modules that will affect every turret Lol you came with a weird points, This nerf will affect my protection modules also and more than your Mk7 modules, because with the nerf I will get one-shot killed by Railgun-Gauss till I upgrade them to Mk7 again

Ok but think about it, if you have LCR Railgun against a Viking with 50% protection, you have to shoot this Viking 4 shoots before he die, and if he used repair kit it will be 7 shoots. It's way too much, but with 35% prot it will be 3 shoots to kill and 5 with Repair kit kinda balanced. LCR is a very slow, and 50% protections terminated it. I agree this nerf to protection will benefit long-ranged turrets more, but it in general will benefit the game's balance. I got angry while fighting anyone with 50% protection, either with LCR or with any turret, 50% prot is a farce it shouldn't be exist. I have a 30% protection against Gauss, and Mk8 EMP Gauss have to kill me with Three sniping shoots with DD, so with 35% it's something balanced. And for sure EMP isn't in our discussion as it's insanely broken. Again my suggestion to protections is to be considered as a some protection to a turret who annoyed you, not a breaker for it like the 50% protection. So if Shaft one-shot you, you can equip 35% protection and it wont one-shot you again. If a skilled Twins bothered you, you can equip a reasonable 35% protection. 50% protections are a game-breaker, they ruined the game Because the nerf is -30% protection, so it will be -10% in Mk7 and -15% to Mk8, and in every time we go lower Mk the nerf will be lower not just with Mk8 and Mk7. Again, the players who have Mk8 protections, will upgrade them to Mk8 even if they were 35%. Agree, but no need of a refund, it's a nerf no one deserve a refund. RFM Shaft get a real nerfed before a while, there's no a compensation or a refund, Hornet OD get nerfed also. Yes, but 50% is a broken it's way too much, it exhausted us

Many turrets and hulls get nerfed by the time, and there is no problem. But if we took your petition we will apply it to everything. Don't forget, if protections get nerfed to 35% in example, the ones who have 35% protections will get it also nerfed. So if you have an Mk7 35% protection.. after the nerf for sure it will be 25%, and the ones who have Mk8 50% protection it will get nerfed to 35%. So it's a general nerf like for any turret and hull, and the ones who invested large amount of crystals to get 50% protections tend to invest it also in 35% in sake of getting the 35% protection. Btw, in nowadays Smoky will get some a nerf, I can say the same what you said. But no, there is no compensation for players, and developers do what they want, so they can nerf protections without caring of its users like many turrets that have nerfed before. By the way, for your last sentence, it's a purely OP, and this combo against EMP with Defender wont affect that much if the protection reduced from 50% to 35% as it's dependent on the Defender and EMP more than this 15% differnce in protections modules.

I just want to make an order for turrets from stronger to weaker regardless of their Augments Gauss Magnum Smoky Firebird Ricochet Vulcan Shaft Twins Thunder Hammer Freeze Railgun Striker Isida I think it's a hard to create a list of stronger and weaker turrets, the first two are definitely OPs and need to be removed. And the rest are close to each other and Smoky isn't that way stronger than Isida because they're all staying in the circle of balancing and modest turrets. I think it's such a meaningless list as approximately every turret now is used with its Augments, if I considered LCR in Railgun, Railgun will be higher than this

Lol, I don't have any problems if they implemented this idea Because I wont play even one day more

The most fun I had in Tanki, in my first days I was think Isidas are volunteers and they're a kind people? I was feeling something shy when Isida healing me, I think it's such a generous thing from him to me. I respect them, and I think I have to do to them a favor. I feel they're the kindest people ever.. Then after a discussion with my brother, I realized that they healing us for Score and Experience, and it's not a generous thing from them. It was a hard fact to me, and I hardly swallowed it. After that I convert into a sly man, and I became consider them as employees to me. When Isida was about to heal me, I run away to not give him score, and in that time Isidas were chasing me to heal me and I continue running. I remember one Isida with Dictator in Silence Red-team, I was in a low health and that Isida trying to chase me to heal me, and I trying to run and he continue chasing and I run.... till he cram me in a place I couldn't run and before he start to heal me I used 1 Repair-kit? to not give him a score. Though in that time Supplies were way too little, especially RKs. And I do this thing many times to Isidas in that time. I was think it's a one of my rights to be healed by them, and they're just an employees, so I run as I want. That was before Warrant Officer, it was my favorite game I liked it too much, many many people in real life knew the game from me and internet. I was consider it as the best game ever (until now), but for sure I played too much and the time crossed. And definitely the game converted into a trash nowadays for any sane human.

My Laptop run HTML5 smoother and better than Flash, I don't see any problem with HTML5. But as you guys seeing a problems in HTML5 though Flash were working with you properly, Yes it's a problem and Flash is superior in this point. And HTML5 need to be fixed at this point, to make it a real alternative for Flash. I bookmarked it and not sure if I will read it one day or will just delay it till I delete it

I noticed that before some months, and I felt like you. So maybe it's a new downside? Yes agree, but in example it's very effective in this cliff? If there was a one above and you want to shoot him by bouncing, it's true there are not many buildings and walls, but sometimes you feel like you need more bouncing Yeah it's very strong Augment, and I use it as my default on my rico, but just this thing pissed me as many Augments that have some no-downsides for mults, and I will give you an example:: like the Augment that disable freezing effect for Freeze, most times "less-skilled players" didn't take a round around the tanks while freezing, so freezing character on them is something not that important, but skilled player want the freezing effect really. Or my old criticize between old stock Magnum, and the "left-right" Augment, I don't remember its name, but this criticize isn't valid until now.

Along way with re-raising old posts Yes, I do agree. So I consider the nerf in Torch-plasma Augment for (one bouncing projectile) is more to be just a nerf for pro Ricochet users than a real nerf. And yeah this maybe will restrict some Ricocheters from using this Augment, but in other side the "Noobs" will don't have a downside in this.

Imagine posting a joke, and the answer coming to you after 3 years. Btw, yes you're right I'm way better than him in Ricochet

The Twins in your team who continuously shooting you without stopping, ruining your aim or make you crushing the wall. Or a squint Thunder who many times shoots you instead of the opponent infront of you. Or the killer one, Viking OD that wont stop shooting you even if there is no enemy. Especially if it were with Magnum, terminated me literally with Viking OD. Before a minutes, I was in a battle and there was a Magnum teammate who spend its Viking OD in just one Wasp, there wasn't any near enemy, and after that terminated me with a huge punch of shoots with the remaining time of her OD. I was going away, and she shooting me, after that I returned and backed to let her a lesson. Or before that a Twins, who is every time surprising me with new shoots, many times I asked him to stop shooting teammates, but he couldn't stop, I took Juggernaut, and he frightened me with his shoots I thought he's an enemy.. btw after that I alerted him, then I took a revenge as I control the Jugger. Noobs are a different type of Mults

I think the biggest problem is the 50% protections, I think protections should be nerfed to 40% or 35% maximum. 50% protection is a way too much, 50% of your damage is gone. Especially against Railgun LCR, it's really slow to kill a hull with 50% protection, especially when they use a RK after that. Btw, it's very disgusting against any turret, 50%. I really hate when I found someone with 50% against my turret, especially if he was Juggernaut. 50% protections are unreasonable, I suggest to nerf them to 35% (if haven't suggest more). So yes if there are an annoying Twins who killed you, you can equip some immunity against him "35% protection" not a whole destroyer 50%. So you can prevent those annoying turrets by your equivalent modest protections, but not to 50%. So I think this also will solve the problem in the topic, and 35% wont make a lot of a disappointment, and for sure wont force you to change your turret just because the players. And will still protect you from getting one-shot killed by Shafts or Magnums.

I remember this problem with letter i and l were in Flash then it solved by converting letter "I" in another font. But I think they forget to do it again in HTML5.

Like Railgun nowadays I think

Gauss EMP, Gauss, Magnum Mortar, Magnum, Railgun Scout, Ricochet Minus-field, etc... I can count you infinity things that way more powerful than Smoky. Those OPs ruined the game, but I mean in general Smoky isn't a weak compared to well known turrets before the horrible game changes (after 2017) with the new OPs. I don't want these OPs to be nerfed, I want them to be removed completely. So when I talk about Smoky I something neglected them. Btw, in conclusion. Agree with you To be honest yes it will affect especially when you a person who prefer to kick tanks with the last edge of the tank (for better knockback), or when you hit a tank when it about to run behind a build. So yes, it will affect. But if we neglected these two points, I think it more aesthetic than an actual intended nerf, the game is in a mess, waiting for the result after new updated graphics and re-advertise the game.