Yes, perhaps they should explain why they decided to update the Containers — even though they gave a snippet of their reasoning in the latest V-LOG — because just saying "this will help new players to better understand the mechanics of a turret before moving on to a new turret" is not satisfactory for a majority of the player base. I still think that my very first post was quite succinct and conveyed my point well. However, if you choose to think that I'm being defensive just because I'm a Helper and then read my posts from a biased point of view ("mods always support all updates", "mods lose their job if they complain", etc.), then I am not at all surprised that it took such a long time to drive the point home. That last post made sense only because the series of posts before that formed the foundation of a point that was already made.

I am, and I am also concerned. The Developers have added Mk1 equipment to Containers, and this is a decision that they're highly unlikely to change. Adding Mk1s to containers was intentional. Now, during implementation, they overlooked something and for this they decided to give those Token of Apology containers. When those high-ranked players (who skipped Mk1s) get Mk1s from those extra containers (or some time later), their container-rewards will no longer have Mk1s, thereby fixing the problem of getting Mk1s despite having higher modifications. Again, I won't get into how good or bad this is — the point still remains that the Token of Apology did what is should have done, and the Mk1-problem got fixed. "Trash rewards in containers", "Why did they add Mk1s to containers", "what's the point of apologising if the real problem is still there" — all of this is something I won't debate/discuss until I fully understand the recent changes. In any case, a debate is absolutely futile if people veer off the main point and start debating on other points (however closely related they may be to the main point). I made no comment on why this update was introduced. Throughout my string of posts, all I have essentially said is this: the Developers made a mistake, admitted it, issued an apology, and gave 23 containers to fix their mistake and this Token of Apology also gave free stuff to players who didn't even face the problem of getting Mk1s.

First of all, that shouldn't have happened at all. Are you sure that you got Freeze twice from normal containers? It could've been an augment or shot effect for Freeze... However, if you really did get Freeze Mk1 two times, then you definitely encountered a bug. Contact Tech Support for this: help@tankionline.com

Exactly. If you get it from a container, you'll never get it again. Or, if you had already purchased Firebird Mk1, it would never show up in the reward-pool of containers.

Look, here are the cases in which Mk1s will not be in the list of available items: You bought the Mk1 version of a hull/turret at some point of time, and then either left it like that, or upgraded it to a higher version; You got the Mk1 version of a hull/turret from one of the containers EDIT: Mk1s will be available from containers if you bought the M0 version which got converted to Mk1 after the M to Mk conversion. This has now been fixed w.e.f. 21st January, 2022 (Patch Update #676). The maximum possible number of Mk1s obtainable is 23, because Smoky, Viking/Crusader, and Hunter/Ares are available for free. Hence, even if you have 23 Mk1s in your reward-pool, getting 23 extra, free containers is more than enough to compensate for this error made by the Developers. Suppose you bought 3 Mk7 kits for equipment which you had never bought in the Garage - then the system will think that you never had Mk1s for that equipment. Hence, your reward-pool will show 6 Mk1s (3 hulls + 3 turrets). Out of these 6, let's assume that you get 2 Mk1s from the 23 Token of Apology containers. Then, you're left with 21 containers having normal rewards! 4 Mk1s are still remaining, though, and you'll inevitably get them from containers in the future. Will those containers be wasted? No! This is because you already got 21 containers before, which is 17 containers more than the Mk1s that are remaining! Once you get an Mk1 from a container, it'll be removed from the list of available items.

Suppose you bought 5 Mk7 kits for equipment which you had never bothered to buy from the Garage. For the system, it looks as if you never had Mk1s for those 5 hull-turret kits, and so Mk1s for that equipment will show up in your reward-pool. If you bought an Mk1 turret and upgraded it to Mk7, then the Mk1 turret will not be obtainable from containers. Now, if you already have the Mk1 versions of all hulls & turrets, then those 23 containers will give you extra crystals/supplies/augments etc. even though you never faced the problem. This basically means that you need not worry at all if your Garage had Mk1s at some point of time. You've essentially got free stuff just like that. Even if you bought the Mk7 versions of 23 turrets & hulls directly, you needn't worry. This means that the system will show 23 Mk1s in your container-reward-pool, because it assumes that your Garage never had Mk1s (this is the mistake that the Developer made). So, when you get 23 extra, free containers, you can be sure that these 23 pieces of equipment will definitely emerge from containers some day. If 10 show up among the 23 from the ToA, then the remaining 13 containers will give you some reward in lieu of the 13 Mk1s that you'll inevitably get from containers in the future.

Getting Mk1 equipment from Containers is not a bug. Getting Mk1 equipment when you already have higher modifications of the item you got — that is a mistake for which the Developers issued the Token of Apology. The 23 containers that you get from that ToA are more than enough to compensate for any wasted containers which gave you Mk1 equipment even though you had higher modifications of that equipment. These 23 containers fixed the problem, pretty much. Read this post of mine to understand how they fixed this issue:

Sorry, I had misinterpreted that particular bit after a convo I had with a few friends... Thanks a lot for pointing that out! I'll edit my post in a bit...

I would greatly appreciate it if you read and understand my post properly, keep the context in mind, and post a reply to what I actually said. I have a feeling that you're talking about something else altogether. Let me make a few things clear. Tanki introduced an update: Mk1 versions of hulls & turrets can now be obtained from normal containers. I won't go into how good or bad this update is, because that is not related to the "issue". People found that they were getting the Mk1 versions of some equipment despite having higher modifications, which means that the containers they opened were wasted. This happened because the Developers, by their own admission, made a mistake and overlooked one important factor: For players who had bought Mk2 or higher modifications of turrets/hulls (via kits or bundles), the system assumed that these players never had the Mk1 version, and hence they could still get the Mk1 version of some equipment from containers. EDIT: Even in the case of players who bought the M0 version and got Mk1s after the M --> Mk conversion, the system failed to detect the presence of Mk1s in the Garage. I don't know why, but I reached this conclusion based on the experiences of many players (after interacting with them). To compensate for this error on their part, they gave 23 containers which are more than enough to make up for the wasted containers of some players. Do note that only some players faced this problem. Many players (including me) had already bought the Mk1 versions of most (if not all) of the turrets and hulls, so these items never showed up in our container-reward-pool. Even then we got 23 containers, so I don't see a single reason to complain. Now, please read my post above once again to understand exactly why giving 23 containers solved the problem (and solved it well, I might add). In fact, it actually ended up giving extra stuff to players who didn't even face this problem. Whether or not these updated containers are a good is a completely different debate. Do not associate this with the Token of Apology. Because, I repeat, the Token of Apology did exactly what it was supposed to do. Now, if you still, somehow, find my post illogical or senseless, feel free to send me a Forum PM and I'll gladly explain it to you. However, I implore you, please read my post with the right context in mind, and please note the exact point that I'm making — I am clearly separating the container update from the "problem" faced by players due to an error by the Developers.

Frankly, I have mixed feelings about this particular update, but do note that Smoky, Hunter/Ares, and Viking/Crusader are available for free even after this update. Also, getting other Mk1 turrets & hulls won't be so difficult after they kinda increased the chances of various rarities.

To all those who still think that "the issue hasn't been fixed": Smoky, Hunter (for PC) or Ares (for mobile), and Viking (PC) or Crusader (mobile) are available for free when you create an account. Hence, we're left with 23 turrets & hulls, for which the Developers gave 23 Containers. Now, whenever you open a Container, there are two possibilities: You get some Mk1 turret/hull You get something else (other than Mk1 equipment) If you get all Mk1 equipment, good for you. If you get some of it, and the rest of the rewards turn out to be the normal rewards, there's still no problem. Why? Simply because these 23 containers were extra ones. If you get some normal reward instead of an Mk1 turret out of these 23, it means that you've already received some reward in lieu of the Mk1 turret which you'd inevitably get some day in the future. It may not be of the same rarity, but that shouldn't matter - you've received a container, a chance to get a good reward, for every Mk1 equipment. Come to think of it, this is much simpler than any other solution... "But the rewards are bad" — well, that's a separate matter and shouldn't be associated with this token of apology, which did exactly what it was supposed to do.

Yo @ILiveOnTheChatBox123, are you still around? It has been quite a while... By the way, believe it or not, this very article was the inspiration behind the story I wrote in my Reporter application!

This last micro-textwall did not age well... The exam was okay-ish, but I got into another good univ via their own entrance exam. Looking back, I have no idea how I managed to compose a poem having more than 400 words... ?

I was really feeling like cracking the classic "...or you'll hafta do it next year" joke, but I procrastinated enough and here I am, cracking the joke "next year"...

That number, 1, signifies something... that a part 2 is going to follow or already exists... ?

Some snazzy pics by Spy, the Admin himself!

I bought 9999 Speed Boosts thinking that they cost only 24k, when in reality the number was 249975 crystals! Now I'm happily crying in a corner ? Sometimes wisdom needs to be bought...

good lukc in lyfe #multforever

Frankly, there are simply too many people to congratulate... please don't kill me for sticking to my current and former Helper group(s)... kaisdf, Person_Random, Dynasty, Iron_Man — my lovely admins and colleagues from the Newspaper... congratulations on being the best Helpers of 2021! @kydapoot, you were already hurtling towards HotY 2021 since the very beginning, so being one of the best Helpers this year is just another jewel in your crown! Congratz! @Zackery459 congratz on HotY 2021! Thanks for taking care of Facebook and Instagram along with Dynasty and StealthMasterX — you might have easily worked as a dozen Venerables combined! (That is perhaps a downgrade but let's not talk about it ) Thank you, also, for helping me out in confusing times during my initial days as a Social Media Helper! @natrolite ? Congratulations for HotY 2021 (and SM Admin lol)! Thanks for everything, especially for helping me out during my candidacy! Oh, and thanks for writing some memorable pieces in the AWS (or the Writers' Corner, as it's now called) — believe it or not, they inspired me! @StealthMasterX congratulations on getting promoted to Wiki Admin! Hex and Stratosphere, my admins when I joined the Wiki team — congratz on getting the prestigious HotY 2021 award "automatically"! ? @elcatalagamer and @Viper_BR1O1: congratz for HotY 2021! :D @CREATOR77: Congratulations, and welcome to the Wiki team! You're on your way to be the second Wiki Content Writer! How could I forget our beloved Sabry, former French Newspaper Reporter... congratz on being one of the Best Helpers of December! Well-deserved, bro!

Yes. Yeah, you need to visit the Special Missions tab to activate the <Gift> mission every day. Otherwise, your progress won't be counted.

Wow. Shard Container strikes again.

@RIDDLER_8 The famous "Flemish" combo with Holiday paint ? I'm loving the look of Freeze HD!

Oooooh so they removed the "cover" at last! * huge sigh of relief * Freeze HD looks good... paints will look better on this skin cuz the metal stuff is on the sides and towards the bottom.

Happy Christmas and Merry New Year! Does this sound weird to your "normal" ear? My fellow tankers, it matters not — I sincerely wish that you get what you sought! May the festive mood grip you this year, May the jingling bells deafen your ear, (The second ear too, I forgot it not) I sincerely wish that you get what you sought! It's that strange, unusual time of the year When just a week away is "next year" That "next year" will bring lots of gifts and whatnot, I sincerely wish that you get what you sought!