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Is this supposed to happen? Can't say I've ever seen that many boosted damage containers given out, not to mention the entire page filled with contents... Currently the 'opening container' noise is constantly happening even though I'm here and not actually opening any containers. *Note, I didn't actually get all those boosted damages
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What Is Your Opinion About the Current State of Tanki Online?
Jeers4U replied to Maf in Game Discussion
It must really be bad at tanki these days. Left two different battles earlier because of the mis-match-making fiasco only to be put back into those two different arenas on the exact same team both times. Are there so few players left and games being played? I hope everyone has opened their containers and spent their coins... -
I've been saying this for years. They are: a) fake tanks placed on that list by tanki until a real tank enters the arena (gives you the illusion that the arena is full, so you won't leave the game) b) loading/garage tanks that may or may never show up (see a) c) bots d) a combination of all of the above I usually press pause for a minute or two when entering a game to let it 'settle' before playing it.
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That's my point. They pick and choose what questions they want to answer and not all the questions--especially the tough questions that might make them look bad. Or greedy. Or whatever. I get it. It's a business. But answering questions about skins and paints doesn't address the questions some of us have repeatedly asked for years. (Please don't ask me what those questions are. If you are unsure, just go through the thread and see the ones that are repeatedly asked. Those are the questions that the developers have not given an answer to. Thus, there is no 'responding properly'.)
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Read Spy's statement again. Simply 'reading' or 'picking up' a question does not imply 'responding properly'. As Spy stated.
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One could have an opinion that this line of thought could also apply to the 'questions to the developers' thread...
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What Is Your Opinion About the Current State of Tanki Online?
Jeers4U replied to Maf in Game Discussion
And there are a significant number of complaints in the compliments thread, so it's even worse than it appears... -
Ranks mean nothing. I've never supported MM by rank. However, by default, adding a clueless legend with 9999GS to a battle to 'fill an arena' will have a 99% greater chance of killing a 2000GS because they naturally do more damage. Skill, teamwork and timed assaults make a winning team--everything else being equal. What is happening now is the higher GS tanks slaughter the weaker tanks. Skill and teamwork aren't needed when you are THAT powerful. THAT is what is happening now. You wouldn't have to add tanks with higher GS to fill the arena in order for the battle to start. Some would call that phenomenon: skill. There isn't a fix for 'people who leave' under any system. So this really isn't a point. People leave now. People leave when they see they're battling legends. People leave before the match finishes. Battles already die right now. They won't change anything. MM has been a well-documented issue for YEARS. The only way the devs will change anything is if people stop paying to play this game. Then you can bet--overnight--they'd fix it. I am not a fan of waiting for bots because bots won't add new players to the base, while an UNfair game will always lose players...
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Not sure I have to read it if you are making excuses or advocating for an UNfair game based on impatience. ? I have always encouraged MM based on Gear Score AND smaller arena sizes. That way it becomes MUCH easier. How do you know? Are you guessing wait times will increase drastically based on... what? Are you a programmer? A developer? What? Fixing it is as difficult as you want to make it. If they wanted to fix it, they would. Look, dude, it has to change. No one is going to sign up for an UNfair game. It really is that simple. Nothing else matters as much. I'm not sure why anyone is having such difficulties understanding this based on 'reasons'. World Football: Fair--unless you put Premier League players (Legends) against Division 3 (Third Lieutenant) in the same game--like tanki does--then no one would watch/play, right? This is literally what is happening here at tanki. Sounds like I'm raging on you, but I'm not. I fail to understand why anyone makes excuses for the completely flawed MM system. It's the reason why we all play this game. To test our 'skill' at this game versus someone else's on an even playing field. Lets just fix MM first and see how many other issues disappear after that. One step at a time. A fair game: first.
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Agree 100% with you. I have suggested the same thing. But I find it funny that--for whatever reason--they seem to keep trying to explain HOW MM works. And it's like, dude, I know HOW it works, I'm telling you HOW it works isn't fair. It's like I'm speaking a dialect of gorilla-grunts that they can't understand.
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A Third Lieutenant should never EVER be put into a battle with Legends just to fill an arena. That is 15 (FIFTEEN) ranks higher Basing the MM system on something that may or may not happen at 2am is ludicrous. MM: Broken Keys: Fluff
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Fluff update.
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What time would you say tanki started its slow death spiral? For me, it would be when it introduced the totally superfluous and unnecessary Gauss turret. Anyone else?
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...like an UNfair matchmaking system?
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doesn't make them enough money.
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I think he just wants a balanced MM system. He doesn't really care how it happens, he just wants it to happen. Like you, me, and the rest of us.
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I know. There's no point in helping anyone who does not wish help. If Donald Trump was a game, tanki would be it. It's sad and I'm not sure how that kind of attitude infects the people who work for tanki. I predict the results of the survey are never published. They're probably making excuses for its contents already.
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I'm questioning your logic. That you don't know why players have left--because you cannot ask them. Btw, I wouldn't admit to being a developer here either.
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I don't think I have ever said MM was the only reason players have left. If I did, please quote where I said that. If you follow any of my posts, you'll see that I have correctly identified dozens of reasons why people leave here and never return. UNfair MM is definitely a main reason, but by no means is it even CLOSE to the only reason they leave. Again. Spoken like a developer. Are you ready to admit that you are a developer--or equivalent? Or do we need to continue to pretend that you aren't? Look, dude. Listen to me. We are players actually telling you what we like and dislike about your game that you created. You want to quote Vlogs from 5 years ago as to why this game isn't crap today? Go right ahead. No one in this thread who has commented that MM needs to be fixed believes a word you say that it doesn't need fixing. Not one word. So then what exactly are you arguing? What is your angle or thought process? Your general story of saying 'well, we had to do (update) because of (excuses), and we had to do (update) because of (excuses)' will never ever change the fact that here we are with a dwindling player base year after year--with you trying your best to maximize profits from those remaining, and attract new players--while still trying to disguise the (update) with (excuses) as necessity-driven instead of profit-driven. I mean, really, you are creating fake players (bots) now to play the game. Let's let that sink in for a moment. You can't attract and retain real people with real money to play this game, so you are going to try fake players--instead of fix a problem that real players have identified. All the updates you 'carefully considered' long term, all the 'effect of ideas' you thought would make you more money, all the (updates) you thought would attract new players (and retain the ones that are still here) aren't working. But instead of actually trying to fix MM--probably the biggest complaint of the players who remain--you've tried everything else BUT that. And failed. Will you not actually consider making MM fair--using the suggestions provided here by real players--and see if THAT fixes some of your dwindling player base problem--instead of justifying (update) with (excuses)? I mean, the fact that you are even arguing with me about it shows how completely out of touch you are with a significant portion of your remaining player base. Just fix it. You are a smart fellow. You can do it. I believe in you.
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I know you do. That's why it's brilliant you proved him wrong accidentally. Lol! You are using tanki's own comment sections of 5 year old Vlogs as your source to prove tanki updates are well received? That's like asking Trump how his term of Presidency went... The motivation to upgrade? Sounds like something a developer would say. We're talking about MM, not upgrading. I'd rather play someone of equal rank and win based on my skill than lose to a player of a much higher GS with more advanced weaponry and/or defence where skill doesn't even enter the equation at all--just to save a few seconds on battle wait-time. You are looking at this problem from a developer's point of view and not a player. Never once have you talked about game enjoyment or player satisfaction/frustration. And you haven't been able to see that. Your argument always boils down to justifying excuses to keep MM UNfair...
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It's not hard. Don't be fooled. The developers created the MM system with all its flaws, they can UNmake it into a more fair system if they wanted to. But it seems there are 2 kinds of people on this debate. 1, A large amount of players who think MM is UNfair and complain to make it fair to increase their enjoyment of the game. 2. A smaller number of players who think MM is fine and generally accept the inadequacies of tanki, but accept what is spoon fed to them.
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I took out the delusional part. But you'll be interested to know--as a mental health professional--the assessment is accurate.
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I think it's denial. I had a big reply typed out but deleted it when I saw your post. I thought something was wrong with my wording or they didn't understand english, but I think you are correct. They actually sound like a developer or other moderator with an alternate account trying too hard to convince everyone that there is nothing wrong with tanki. Like Oz behind the curtain pulling his levers and pressing his buttons trying to fool the adventurers...
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You just proved Mjmj558 wrong with your first two sentences. Thank you. Wanting more doesn't factor into it. Basing MM on gear score is literally the only way. If you change to 9999 later, you are not allowed back into the game. See how simple it is?
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