Whooptie do. Instead of not being allowed to participate in a 31% off sale I am now told I can go **** off on the 50% sale instead. Cedric, what use are you? I know you do not set policy but you are supposedly our liasion to the Tanki company. Yet I never see any questions answered here? Why do your supposed role exist then? One more time! I am Captain. I have been so for almost 6 weeks. I have had the Cr to buy the Northerner kit ever since I hit exp point 332,000. I could not buy the kit due to the "rotation system." The the update was announced so when Northener rotated back I did not want to spend all my Cr on something that I might not likje until after the change. Plus I'd heard there was always a sale on Halloween. So I tested my Vik/Smoke combo, decided I could live with it, and waited for the sale. No Norhterner kit. Not durig the early week, when a 31% module sale would have saved me about 19,000 on the regular kit price. No Northerner kit after the mid-week "rotation" when a 31% hull sale would have saved me over 17,000 Cr. And now no Northerner kit during a 50% turret sale which would save me a whopping 35,000 Cr. So Cedric... why exactly does Tanki think I should be happy with the fact they are screwing me out of 35,000 Cr? Do you understand how many hours and weeks it takes to earn 35,000 for the new player? Why are some players allowed to buy their kits at a discount but LittleWillie isn't? The same thing affects two other lower-ranked accounts of mine too. Osaka kit and Stinger kit also did not appear in the rotation either week. I am a new player. I had hopes to buy three kits during the sale. Tanki tells me to *** off ... unless I pay $36 to buy Northerner out of the Shop. Yeah. That's gonna happen. No Tanki, it is you who can *** off. Like hell they make everyone happy. Tanki is making it immpossible for a new player to WANT to stick around,. Those Russians need to hire a western marketing expert to extract their heads from ... well you know from where.

Like hell.

Yah, I agree. That boils down to the same thing I am talking about. It is a marketing gimmik but one I think hurts Tanki more than it helps them. Anyway it is their bed let them lie in it. I like playing the game when there's a good matchup. So I'll keep playing until I no longer do. But I've given up hope for a better product. Be it TO or TX. Oh well.

Before the kits were in the shop what a buyer would do is buy Cr then use the Cr to buy the kit. Now buyers just buy the kit directly. So kits could always be had for cash. I am sure they think the rotation policy drives up there revenue. But I suspect it does the opposite. I suspect a lot more players would put down $4 or $10 to buy some Cr - enough to get them that kit a couple weeks early. As opposed to how many people will drop $40 or $70 to buy a kit out of the Shop? I don't see Blizzard or other successful gaming companies structure things this way.

You are right. If you actually read what I posted you'd know that. New players are not "flooded with crystals". I cannnot but items from the garage because they are unlocked at a lower rank via kits. I can purchase the items only by buying one specific kit. How long have YOU been playing? But, y'know. Nevermind. I sense futility.

Yes I agree that is true, But they are giving up dozens of small purchases for every one big purchase they get. Let me put it this way... Have you ever had a store refuse to take your money, telling you "Oh no, we will sell that item only on Tuesdays." No. Of course not. Only a cretin would erect obstacles when trying to earn business from potential customers. Tanki erects obstacles between themselves and potential customers all the time. Conclusion?:_______________

Smokey and Thunders rages are now essentially the same and exactly the same at m4. They are essentially the same weapon with a variation... fast and lighter or slower and heavier.

Good thoughts on the fast rotation but I see no need for a rotation at all. The entire concept has no merit just downside. You are wrong about the kit prices. The kit prices are lower during the time when one of its components is on sale. The fact I cannot by the kits I wanted to buy during thie exciting fun super nifty sale is going to cost me tens of thousands of Cr ... or in other words, dozens of hours of playtime ... weeks of earnings. I'll have to spend extra but other pkayers won't? Because why? Beause of luck and a stupid rotation concept. Not only do I have no fondness for these Russin jerks I am now actively rooting for their financial collapse. I'll never spend another dime with them. F them.

Iimagine theyhave some sort of "rationale" like this. But this sort of thinking ignores the cost in terms of dring away annoyed custometrs. Drive away one customer and that is worth more than any amount of crystals. Not to mention they'd get more Cr payments if - when people went to the store - there were actually items in the store to buy! Basically I think we just have Russians who still have the old Soviet mindset. The central authority decides what is for sale and how much it costs and the shopper lines up and buys it. in other words, compared to the average western shopper, they are idiots.

It's quite likely that ifo was alredy trasmitted. The extra work would be on your graphics card just to display it. But not necessarilly a bandwidth hit.

What does this mean? Please help out a new player. Well... newish. :)

Thanks friend, for "getting it". Why not just have every kit for sale every day? It cannot be because there are so many kits the garage would be cluttered. ... if so why not rotate paints too? Modules? SMH

What foes this have to do with the update? Well, I guess you did not read the details. Turns out Tanki adjusted the parameters for all hulls and turrets. Some of th changes were dramatic. Some players no longer like using the equipment they bought. Some players were wanted to test the update before buying a certain kit until they tested the update. Some players are not Gizmos that are new players who have a hard time finding the Cr to buy just one hull and turret. Some players are new to the game and are the exact people Tanki needs to retain in order for the company to survive. So it seems just plain old smart to me that if I were a gaming company, I would help my customers adapt to the change rather than making it burdensome. So now it is your turn. Name me one single benefit to the rotation policy. Exactly why should not every kit be available for purchase every day of every year? Exactly why is the game made better under this rotation scheme.

Well, I had an interest in buying 3 specific kits during this 8-day long Halloween sale and not a single one of them appeared in the rotation. This was important because thousands of players are reacting to the new update and have been saving Cr for weeks leading to this event. Now thousands have been shut out to no fault of their own. This is Tanki's idea of customer service? This isTanki's idea of making people like(?) their company? You put so much effort into an 8-day celebration and by simple overisght you blow it all. You have decided LittleWillie does not get to come to Tanki's Halloween party. Cheers. Do you see this Cedrik? Weeks ago you said this was a valid concern and you'd pass it along to the devs. I asked you 2-3 times if you had done so. You never replied. Now exactly what I predicted has happened. Due to random chance this completely stupid rotation system has deemed I do not get to buy my kits at a discount - but other players do. It's stuff like this that leave me with no fondness this company. I like playing the game - that battling. But the development and economic system is a colossal mess. The company seems to go out of their way to highlight their shortcomings. I wouldn't care one whit if this company failed as a business tomorrow. They make it clear they do not care about their customers so fair's fair. I've spent money in the pasr (I believe in supporting good games) and planned to buy more gold boxes. But fat chance for that anymore. Pissing off customers - bad business. Noob Russians.

Thanks for the reference to War Thunder. I'd heard of WoT but not War Thunder. After two days of so much wasted time server-skipping trying to find a game that was: a) Near my rank level b) On a non-slaughterhouse map (e.g. NOT Poly CP) c) That is not already a blowout for one team Frustration with Tanki is having me think of trying one of those. Tanki's basic gameplay is good, aside from the simplistic and detrimental Supplies system. But the tedium of looking for a good game and the atrocious economic system surrounding Tanki is sapping the fun out of it. I am not encouraged anything will change - especially in the nature of Supplies - because TX seems to be keeping the worst of TO (Supplies) and ruining the good parts. Basic gameplay in TX is slow, clunky, and crude..

30-40 dps is SOP for me. But yesterday was full of 10-20 FPS "fun".

That's like, based on points and winning teams, El Duderino. (I am not into the brevity thing.)

What about a feature to exclude missions difficult for Smoky? Stop whining. That's what this had reduced to. EVERYONE has missions they find difficult. I had a ****LOAD of them yesterday ... took me forever to finish compared to most days. Suck it up and join the rest of the players.

If you feel that way play fire or freeze. The entire Tanki community does not have to suffer an overpowered Isida just because a handful want their unkillable status back. Suck it up and learn to play with a weakness. PS: EVERY Turret can "kill-steal".

EXACTLY! The Isida debate started out with some valid concerns. The concerns have been shown to be false through seeing gameplay. Now we are left with whining ... the new Isida will be hard to play in certain situations. Well welcome to the club. That is true for all 10 other turrets and now its true for Isida too. Debate over.

ROFL! Sorry friend, I've played far too many online games. I am fully aware that most gamers follow the common opinions to whatever is considered "uber" at the moment. In Tanki itself I've seen far too many Isidas spawn next to my wounded tank, ignore me, and go on to attack the enemy. Here's the bottom line. Isida is perfectly good after the update. Players who want the high self-healing back want nothing other than to return the Isida turret to its dominating, challenge free. over-powered status. And it is not going to happen. Time to close out this topic.

Every Isida I see is doing fine but that is all explained by the skill sof those players only I encounter. Eh? That's your postion? "Because isidas can do well in battles doesn't mean the turret is balanced." The mind boggles.

I intentionally sought out much higher ranked opposition once, yes. I normally seek out game near my rank level. I had no problems in those games. The fact the OP Isida defenders here refuse to discuss is this: in the game Isidas are doing just fine. No wall of words changes that.

I would not make that argument because clearly Firebirds damage output is not 4x every other turret's. Would such a change be made we would not see Firebirs doing ewell on the battlefield. We are seeing Isidas doing well on the battlefield. And what I am not seeing so much, are teh Isidas players who never heal teammates in their haste to killkillkill. I saw that all the time before the patch. Do not sob for those players ... they'll just move to the next OP turret. That's what that sort of player does... I said I had a challennge playing my Isida against players with well over twice my experience point total. It is and always was also a challenge to play against higher-ranked players with my Smoky. (Was Smoky BEFORE THE UPDATE an underpowered turret?) I felt I had about the same difficulty level which speaks to a balanced situation. Here on the forum there's all sorts of theoretical arguments being made as to how Isidas are now broken. Yet in the actual game the Isidas do well. Therefore the smart money says, "Isidas are fine the theoretical complaints are wrong."

I love playing the Isida. I have played the healer role in many online games and I know how to do it. I did not get an Isida with the idea of dominating DM play.